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It is time to leave your worries outside and laugh
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with us inside the Treehouse. I'm Daniel Malley along with
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Trey Trenholm and Raj Sharma. Last week we talked about
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the drama surrounding Stranger Things and how Millie Bobby Brown had, allegedly,
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according to an unconfirmed report in The Daily Mail, filed
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a bullying claim against co star David Harbor prior to
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filming season five of Stranger Things. Neither of their camps
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came out to deny it. There was no official statement
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from the show, and then the premiere happened last Thursday.
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At the premiere, everything looked, you know, pretty good. So
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is the Stranger Things drama between Millie Bobby Brown and
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David Harbor reel or is it made up tabloid trash?
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They see more than fine at that premiere. They not
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only pose for photographs together on the red carpet, but
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they also rowed together to the event. So is this
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story about her filing a bullying claim against him true
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or not? Trey, what do you think?
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I think? I don't know. I don't believe she probably
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filed it. I think there may have been some chit chat,
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you know, chatter that she felt, you know, things got
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too intense. But I feel like it's something that either
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someone threw out to try to throw monkey wrench in
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the whole thing, or just a publicity stunt.
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Rise, where do you fall on this?
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I'm going to go publicity stunt there. That's to get
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the whole thing out of the way. People can pretend
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to like each other. They're called actors. I don't know
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if you ever watched the show Castle, but Nathan Fillion
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and Stana Kattika hated each other.
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Really, Yeah, so that's nothing new. I mean, shows have
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co stars. It's actually fairly common for the co stars
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to be at odds. It was very famous in the
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with Tom Hardy and Charlie Sturrun and the Mad Max
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Fury Road movie. You just mentioning, what is it.
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Trey, everyone who's ever worked with William Shatner.
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Yeah, but the shows. But the shows have been great,
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They've they've all good actors being able to perform around
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an ego of that size something Trey and I also
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know a thing or two about so these types of
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situations do arise, and you put whatever personal feelings you
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have a side for the sake of your job, right
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or for even maybe higher than that, the sake of
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the show, which maybe you love you like. I'll put
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up with this because it's for this great thing. So
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now that you guys have what you think the situation is,
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let me see if your opinions change when you hear
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about what the Duffer brothers, the co creators of Stranger
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Things and executive producer Sean Levy, had to say about it.
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All Right, we've got following an unverified report, okay that
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we've already covered. The Duffer brother said, obviously you understand
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I can't get into personal on set matters. That's Ross
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Duffer to the Hollywood reporter. This is on the red carpet.
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The outlet noted he was standing next to his brother
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Matt during this conversation. He added, We've been doing this
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for ten years with this cast and at this point
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their family, and we deeply care about them. So you know,
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nothing matters more than just having a set where everyone
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one feels safe and happy. Okay, Now, for Sean Leavy,
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you have to create a respectful workplace where everyone feels
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comfortable and safe, and so we did everything to build
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that environment, and we're proud of the fact that we did.
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So.
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I've read a bunch of stories and they ranged from
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wildly inaccurate to there's so much noise around it. But
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the truth is that we view this crew and this
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cast as family, and so we treat each other with
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respect and that's always been bedrock. Something absolutely happened on
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that set. I've had enough conversations with corporate lawyers in weird,
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funky HR situations to know when they've been basically told
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what to say.
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Yeah, that's that's a publicist writing it for them.
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That's a publicist meeting with a lawyer and then coming
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together and saying, this is our message on this story.
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So this is a very HR response from the co
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creators and executive producer. So something absolutely happened. So now
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I'm thinking that this goes to show how good of
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performers David Harbor and Millie Bobby Brown might just be
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because the best performance in Stranger Things might have been
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on that red carpet last Thursday.
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Or it could have been something that did get blown out.
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You know, there was conflict, but then they made up,
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I mean along the way. I mean it's not like,
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you know, the filming of these things is over a
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think this season, this final season, I think they shot
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it close to a year of production. I mean it
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was months and months at least, I know, at least
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five months of production. And the way these types of
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things go because all these other because it's such a
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large cast, they all have all these other projects as
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well some people, this might have taken place over the
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course of a year just to get everyone's schedules and
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everything played in so Trey, I think you may be
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onto something there. It might be a little bit of
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a it might be truth to both pieces that something
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may have happened, but they also may have just made up. Well.
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goes unnoticed, which is for David Harbor, he started when
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she was a child, and you have now gone from
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basically child to adult, and there may have been some
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things that like were funny with them between the two
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of them when she was a child or a teenager
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that all of a sudden she didn't like as an adult,
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and you may have got in trouble for.
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That, but yeah, yeah, she may have had to have
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a conversation with him that kind of centered around you're
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not my father. You may have fatherly feelings towards me
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because of this role, this dynamic that we have on
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the show, But you're not my daddy. Do you guys
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know who her now father in law is? Bon Jovi?
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Oh yeah, that's right.
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So I kind of wonder, and this is complete guesswork
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on my part. I can't help, but wonder did he
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say something to her about getting married so young? Because
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when I saw the headline that said she was engaged
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and not engaged to just anyone, but engaged to the
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son of John bon Jovi, my first thought was, well,
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that ain't gonna last.
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My first thought was, doesn't it suck to just always
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be known as the son of John bon Jovi?
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You know what? You know what, this may actually be
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a perfect relationship for him because he's used to being
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in someone's shadow, right, So by marrying Millie Bobby Brown,
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he may be comfortable in that shadow because he's been
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in his father's shadow his entire life.
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they have a wine, a winery or something like that.
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I think he's kind of embraced being John bon Jovi's son,
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and you know rightfully, so not a bad gig. No,
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it's not.
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If there was a posting for that on LinkedIn, I'd
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be all over it. I'd be like, hey, I make
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my resume a match.
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You guys are white, one of you might get the job.
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I'm not.
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A position. Yeah. No, they would find a position for you,
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because I feel like they would have to, but not
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that one.
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Yeah, nobody would believe that.
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If I was like, hey, I'm buon Jobe's son, They're like, hey,
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you're lying.
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Or he doesn't know it yet.
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When was that world tour?
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Yeah, I went to India once. That's all it takes.
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Better Alive is about to bring on a whole new meaning.
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So do slippery when wet. We don't know how he
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did it, but somehow Richie and John managed to make
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the Ganges even wetter.
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And that was your Richie's alcohol.
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I mean, it really is. It really is a fascinating story.
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So and I couldn't help, but I was. I was
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set to let it go until I read this story
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the other day about what the Duffer brothers said, what
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Sean Leevy said, and I was like, that is three
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departments coming together, HR, public Relations and legal telling those
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people here's what you're going to say.
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Well, I mean, you're also working for what is now
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one of the behemoths of the entertainment industry and Netflix.
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So I'm sure they carefully crafted this one.
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is another wrinkle about the Stranger things that I love,
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and this is more of a Netflix deal. This is
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one of the few shows that Netflix is going to
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allow to actually finish on Netflix because one of the
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things Netflix has, you know, going against it. One of
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the comments and always gets online is that they ca
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Hansel shows when they're popular, Like there's there's countless shows
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that have seasons that have gone only one or two
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seasons at Netflix, like now We're good and there they're done,
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and and it leaves a lot of the fans going, well,
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what the hell we need to we need the rest
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of this show. So A Stranger thinks it's one of
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those you know that it's actually let you know, finish.
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But didn't they do the opposite with like, uh, designated Survivor.
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and then I think it was two or three seasons
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and that canceled and then Netflix picked it back up.
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have done, and that, to me, that's very smart on
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streaming services part, which is if something didn't do great
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on broadcast, you can save it and get some good
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numbers on it on streaming. And I think it did
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better numbers on streaming that it did on ABC.
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And did well and famously they did that with the
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rest of development.
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of the things that helped propel Netflix to its current
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someome status.
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to give shows they create a longer run. I mean,
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then Netflix let it have a fourth season and it
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was just a money grab. I mean, it was awful.
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Things is good. I hope it's not a what was
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the show on HBO that everyone went crazy about with
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the last season?
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Yeah, I'm with you. Trey because one of the most
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difficult things to do if you have a successful television show,
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or even to a certain degree, a successful film franchise,
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is once you announced to everyone that it's ending, sticking
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the landing, sticking the finale to where everyone, all the fans,
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feel satisfied, the story feels like it's ending in its
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proper place, something that makes sense that but it's also
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not just fan service.
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That's very difficult, and very few, very few television shows
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have actually stuck the finale. I mean, we know Game
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of Thrones is one of the best recent examples that
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completely botched it. The Sopranos tied itself up, but it
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was a controversial ending because it just went to black
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and started playing Journey and everyone's like, well, what theF happens?
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ultimately that was probably a good ending.
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They got when the Sopranos when it went to black,
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because that was a line from Tony's talking to a
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big pussy. He said, you know, what do you think
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happens when you go He goes, well, Tony, I think
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it just all goes to black.
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So that's where that came from. When that happened, it goes.
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That's something like one point two million people called their
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cable providers to see what happened.
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everyone's like unplugging their like unscrewing their co acts, blowing
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on it, screwing it back in. See if it's dad
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or they're turning stuff off and on. They're calling HBO,
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They're calling cable like, what the hell happened to my show? Yeah,
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all of a sudden, the intro to six Feet Under
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starts and like, I'm not ready for this. I need
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I need to know what happened to Tony and his family
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and that damn diner.
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Isn't there rumors of that coming back too?
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I know he's past i'ms Gendelfini, but I heard there
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was rumors of that show coming back or maybe a no,