Stranger Than Stranger Things | Tuesday November 11, 2025

0:00 Want more Treehouse, check out our YouTube exclusive shows at YouTube dot com slash at Treehouse on air. It is time to leave your worries outside and laugh with us inside the Treehouse. I'm Daniel Malley along with Trey Trenholm and Raj Sharma. Last week we talked about the drama surrounding Stranger Things and how Millie Bobby Brown had, allegedly, according to an unconfirmed report in The Daily Mail, filed a bullying claim against co star David Harbor prior to filming season five of Stranger Things. Neither of their camps came out to deny it. There was no official statement from the show, and then the premiere happened last Thursday.

1:10 At the premiere, everything looked, you know, pretty good. So is the Stranger Things drama between Millie Bobby Brown and David Harbor reel or is it made up tabloid trash? They see more than fine at that premiere. They not only pose for photographs together on the red carpet, but they also rowed together to the event. So is this story about her filing a bullying claim against him true or not? Trey, what do you think? I think? I don't know. I don't believe she probably filed it. I think there may have been some chit chat, you know, chatter that she felt, you know, things got too intense. But I feel like it's something that either someone threw out to try to throw monkey wrench in the whole thing, or just a publicity stunt.

2:01 Rise, where do you fall on this? I'm going to go publicity stunt there. That's to get the whole thing out of the way. People can pretend to like each other. They're called actors. I don't know if you ever watched the show Castle, but Nathan Fillion and Stana Kattika hated each other. Really, Yeah, so that's nothing new. I mean, shows have co stars. It's actually fairly common for the co stars to be at odds. It was very famous in the with Tom Hardy and Charlie Sturrun and the Mad Max Fury Road movie. You just mentioning, what is it. Trey, everyone who's ever worked with William Shatner.

2:43 Yeah, but the shows. But the shows have been great, They've they've all good actors being able to perform around an ego of that size something Trey and I also know a thing or two about so these types of situations do arise, and you put whatever personal feelings you have a side for the sake of your job, right or for even maybe higher than that, the sake of the show, which maybe you love you like. I'll put up with this because it's for this great thing. So now that you guys have what you think the situation is, let me see if your opinions change when you hear about what the Duffer brothers, the co creators of Stranger Things and executive producer Sean Levy, had to say about it.

3:29 All Right, we've got following an unverified report, okay that we've already covered. The Duffer brother said, obviously you understand I can't get into personal on set matters. That's Ross Duffer to the Hollywood reporter. This is on the red carpet. The outlet noted he was standing next to his brother Matt during this conversation. He added, We've been doing this for ten years with this cast and at this point their family, and we deeply care about them. So you know, nothing matters more than just having a set where everyone one feels safe and happy. Okay, Now, for Sean Leavy, you have to create a respectful workplace where everyone feels comfortable and safe, and so we did everything to build that environment, and we're proud of the fact that we did.

4:12 So. I've read a bunch of stories and they ranged from wildly inaccurate to there's so much noise around it. But the truth is that we view this crew and this cast as family, and so we treat each other with respect and that's always been bedrock. Something absolutely happened on that set. I've had enough conversations with corporate lawyers in weird, funky HR situations to know when they've been basically told what to say. Yeah, that's that's a publicist writing it for them. That's a publicist meeting with a lawyer and then coming together and saying, this is our message on this story. So this is a very HR response from the co creators and executive producer. So something absolutely happened. So now I'm thinking that this goes to show how good of performers David Harbor and Millie Bobby Brown might just be because the best performance in Stranger Things might have been on that red carpet last Thursday.

5:10 Or it could have been something that did get blown out. You know, there was conflict, but then they made up, I mean along the way. I mean it's not like, you know, the filming of these things is over a week or two. Yeah, and you're right, I mean you're talking about I think this season, this final season, I think they shot it close to a year of production. I mean it was months and months at least, I know, at least five months of production. And the way these types of things go because all these other because it's such a large cast, they all have all these other projects as well some people, this might have taken place over the course of a year just to get everyone's schedules and everything played in so Trey, I think you may be onto something there. It might be a little bit of a it might be truth to both pieces that something may have happened, but they also may have just made up. Well.

6:00 There's also there's a third factor that I think probably goes unnoticed, which is for David Harbor, he started when she was a child, and you have now gone from basically child to adult, and there may have been some things that like were funny with them between the two of them when she was a child or a teenager that all of a sudden she didn't like as an adult, and you may have got in trouble for. That, but yeah, yeah, she may have had to have a conversation with him that kind of centered around you're not my father. You may have fatherly feelings towards me because of this role, this dynamic that we have on the show, But you're not my daddy. Do you guys know who her now father in law is? Bon Jovi?

6:52 Oh yeah, that's right. So I kind of wonder, and this is complete guesswork on my part. I can't help, but wonder did he say something to her about getting married so young? Because when I saw the headline that said she was engaged and not engaged to just anyone, but engaged to the son of John bon Jovi, my first thought was, well, that ain't gonna last. My first thought was, doesn't it suck to just always be known as the son of John bon Jovi? You know what? You know what, this may actually be a perfect relationship for him because he's used to being in someone's shadow, right, So by marrying Millie Bobby Brown, he may be comfortable in that shadow because he's been in his father's shadow his entire life.

7:40 Oh yeah, I mean he runs the family. I think they have a wine, a winery or something like that. I think he's kind of embraced being John bon Jovi's son, and you know rightfully, so not a bad gig. No, it's not. Believe me. If there was a posting for that on LinkedIn, I'd be all over it. I'd be like, hey, I make my resume a match. You guys are white, one of you might get the job. I'm not. A position. Yeah. No, they would find a position for you, because I feel like they would have to, but not that one. No. Yeah, nobody would believe that. If I was like, hey, I'm buon Jobe's son, They're like, hey, you're lying.

8:24 Or he doesn't know it yet. When was that world tour? Yeah, I went to India once. That's all it takes. Better Alive is about to bring on a whole new meaning. So do slippery when wet. We don't know how he did it, but somehow Richie and John managed to make the Ganges even wetter. And that was your Richie's alcohol.

9:05 I mean, it really is. It really is a fascinating story. So and I couldn't help, but I was. I was set to let it go until I read this story the other day about what the Duffer brothers said, what Sean Leevy said, and I was like, that is three departments coming together, HR, public Relations and legal telling those people here's what you're going to say. Well, I mean, you're also working for what is now one of the behemoths of the entertainment industry and Netflix. So I'm sure they carefully crafted this one. Yeah. And it's fascinating too, because this is something this is another wrinkle about the Stranger things that I love, and this is more of a Netflix deal. This is one of the few shows that Netflix is going to allow to actually finish on Netflix because one of the things Netflix has, you know, going against it. One of the comments and always gets online is that they ca Hansel shows when they're popular, Like there's there's countless shows that have seasons that have gone only one or two seasons at Netflix, like now We're good and there they're done, and and it leaves a lot of the fans going, well, what the hell we need to we need the rest of this show. So A Stranger thinks it's one of those you know that it's actually let you know, finish.

10:22 But didn't they do the opposite with like, uh, designated Survivor. I think that was on CBS ABC, Uh, Abc, Okay, and then I think it was two or three seasons and that canceled and then Netflix picked it back up. You know what, You're right, that is something that they have done, and that, to me, that's very smart on streaming services part, which is if something didn't do great on broadcast, you can save it and get some good numbers on it on streaming. And I think it did better numbers on streaming that it did on ABC. And did well and famously they did that with the rest of development. Oh yeah, that's right, and one could argue that's one of the things that helped propel Netflix to its current someome status.

11:02 But I think they're also I think they're more likely to give shows they create a longer run. I mean, Umbrella Academy was a great show for three seasons and then Netflix let it have a fourth season and it was just a money grab. I mean, it was awful. And I'm that's why I'm hoping this season of Stranger Things is good. I hope it's not a what was the show on HBO that everyone went crazy about with the last season? Yeah, I'm with you. Trey because one of the most difficult things to do if you have a successful television show, or even to a certain degree, a successful film franchise, is once you announced to everyone that it's ending, sticking the landing, sticking the finale to where everyone, all the fans, feel satisfied, the story feels like it's ending in its proper place, something that makes sense that but it's also not just fan service.

12:08 You know. That's very difficult, and very few, very few television shows have actually stuck the finale. I mean, we know Game of Thrones is one of the best recent examples that completely botched it. The Sopranos tied itself up, but it was a controversial ending because it just went to black and started playing Journey and everyone's like, well, what theF happens? But it keeps us talking about it, So to me, ultimately that was probably a good ending. They got when the Sopranos when it went to black, because that was a line from Tony's talking to a big pussy. He said, you know, what do you think happens when you go He goes, well, Tony, I think it just all goes to black.

12:52 So that's where that came from. When that happened, it goes. That's something like one point two million people called their cable providers to see what happened. Yeah, because they just thought that HBO got turned off. Yeah, everyone's like unplugging their like unscrewing their co acts, blowing on it, screwing it back in. See if it's dad or they're turning stuff off and on. They're calling HBO, They're calling cable like, what the hell happened to my show? Yeah, all of a sudden, the intro to six Feet Under starts and like, I'm not ready for this. I need I need to know what happened to Tony and his family and that damn diner.

13:33 Isn't there rumors of that coming back too? I know he's past i'ms Gendelfini, but I heard there was rumors of that show coming back or maybe a no, there was a prequel to. It, right, Yeah, there was a prequel and his son played him. Anything more than that, I'm not sure of. But as far as grand finales go, you're right, Trey, because you and I have seen every single episode of Stranger Things, raj I forget. Have you seen all of it or just some of it? I've seen none of it, all right, so you suck. But the thing is, though you can at least still relate to this from a general standpoint when it comes to this final season drama aside true or not? Just put that aside. I find myself feeling like Ricky Bobby in Talladegon Knights at the dinner table, praying to the sweet Baby Jesus, please let this Stranger Things finale be good. It doesn't even have to be amazing, it doesn't have to be great. Just let it be good and I will be fine with it.

14:36 Dear sweet Baby Jesus, please let this be good. Now I want to watch this to see if it's terrible. Look, I highly recommend the show. You've got four seasons to watch. It's really good, and if you're dedicated to it, you can get the four seasons in before the fifth starts on the twenty sixth. Yeah, I pass. What do you have against joy? Just the concept like I'm not a okay, I'm not a sci fi guy or a. Whatever you want to call it. Like, so when somebody was describing and this maybe what it was, somebody was describing it to me, and they're like, somebody's in the lights or something like that in the beginning first season.

15:25 See, here's your problem. You're listening to people tell you things about the show out of context. Almost every show that has something supernatural is going to sound ridiculous out of context. That's why you have to watch the show for yourself to understand how what that actually means in context of the show. When you see the show, talking through the lights actually makes sense. Yes, it sure does. I realize what your problem is. You'd rather make fun of something than understand it. Yes, I didn't realize that was not clear. Right.

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18:50 That being said, is it better than this performance that the brand new Miss World Chile had over the weekend? Excuse who right now? Wadd bad no? Wohd no.

19:49 No no, not that they've asked me, but ninety seven won. The Eagle has an opportunity to to do something really great for their next BFD show. Also also, Miss Chile goes hard. Yeah, and who you talk about a performance like she's so hot. I don't think she could yodel. I wouldn't care. She could play the spoons, I don't. Go I would. I think people would pay a lot of money to see her just sitting on a stool playing some spoons on you know what, playing some spoons on a front porch somewhere.

20:32 But still doing death metal while playing the spoons. That's okay, yeah, death spoons. Is it cheating to have your other personality do your talent because I feel like that. No. I think I think that should be completely fine because in the world of pageantry, it's supposed to be very accepting now right the way the world's supposed to be, So they have to take mental health, uh seriously. So if you have two or three other people inside you, then that's all. That's all part of the package. And at some point, if you're representing Chile at the Missworld competition, I think it's important for the entire country of Chile to know how many people are inside you because you're going to represent the country.

21:22 I feel like there are a string of ex boyfriends that when they heard that on national TV, all of a sudden got in the fetal position PTSD all of a sudden came out. Yeah, because at the time they didn't realize that she was in a band, Like they just thought that was her just mad, she was just rehearsing. Yeah. Yeah. And then kind of like Taylor Swift does, she takes all this Miss Chile takes all of her relationship drama and funnels it into her death metal singing. But I don't understand does anybody understand the words?

22:04 Now, I'm I'm, I'm gonna tray. It's more it's more melody based at this. Point, because in the beginning I thought it was her death metal version of Somewhere over the Rainbow. I don't know why I heard that. Uh. Now, there's there's a song in here that it sounds familiar, but I can't quite place it. But this let's see if we can. We'll play it again and see if this song sounds familiar or maybe it is Somewhere over the Rainbow, you know, death metal. See right here, it sounds like what is it Lincoln Is it Lincoln Park?

22:50 Don No, that's I feel like it's corn or something. It sounds like bodies, sounds like drum. Yeah, listen, to it here. No, yeah, I have no idea if that's English or not. And I think Trey's right. I don't think anybody cares that being said, Ignacia Fernandez is there? Not? Is her name? Ignasia Fernandez was crowned Miss World Chile twenty twenty five. Do a no small part to her death metal vocalization. This is an original song by her and her death metal band Decesses that might be in Chile and Spanish. I'm not sure if that translates English or not. This is at the Miss World Chile semifinals.

23:50 The vocalist, model, and animal rights advocate beat out nineteen other finalists to be crowded Miss World Chile twenty twenty five. And by beat out, I assume they mean she actually beat them? Yes, Uh does that mean she compete in like Miss Universe. I'm hoping so yeah, yeah, because yeah, because I yeah, I think this was her winning the crown in Chile. Yeah, And so now she's going to go on to the international competition and the other competitors got to be thinking, oh no. And also I think we have a I think we have a great premise for like another Miss Congeniality sequel, but.

24:32 It was nice to see that the bass was being cleaned by last year's Miss Chile. It's that camaraderie you don't always good in the American side, you know. I was trying to figure out who had better hair. That is fantastic. Yeah, anyone else have goosebumps?

25:16 No, I'm thinking with them ATSD. I'm thinking if like the Ghostbusters had one of their scanners, you would just seems like five different beams just floating around in there. They're all at full attention. Win. That's not how did you win? I came off my meds. That's how it. We're gonna have to cross the streams Ray. There is no misworld, there is only Zeel. Let me just point out, though this was not the most amazing performance over the weekend, there is one that might actually take the crown from Miss Chile. And we have our very own ras Sharma to.

26:06 Thing for this sabouts and I take on and. She's got the top of my lungs. What's going on? Wait for it? And say and saying nothing and German nothings in the tap b bees, the bes in the tap b bees in the drop. Yeah, his parents are so proud. It was gonna be. It was gonna be our doctor. He still can be. He's just gonna be a doctor with a side hustle.

26:48 Yeah, I mean he gets a lot. I mean I've seen a few of his videos and they're just as bad. Uh. But the see, that's the thing. The confidence is what sells that. He looks like he's having a great time. My ears don't. But but he is having a blast. If we're being honest though. I mean his lyrics mixed in with the four non blondes, it does work. Oh yeah, yeah, I mean this is over. I mean I'm assuming over time he's figured this out because now he's finding his own voice, which he needs to lower. Uh, he needs to alter that volume.

27:30 And I'll set bout side and I take on good and bevide She's going to top of my. Lungs whiles going on. Drop it, just saying and saying nothing the books, German, nothing abasing the tap. B bes in the CAB's in the tap b bees in the drop. Yeah you sing it, Sonjay, Oh my gosh. It's just you know, he he's got to be like a mini celebrity in India somewhere.

28:18 Give me figuratively or literally, like maybe he's really tiny. We just don't know it. Maybe that's what it is. He's tiny, And that's what it explains the voice, because nobody should have a pitch outside of like Arry Gibb, Like nobody needs to have a pitch that high. I just I feel sorry for him because I feel like he's the kid that got picked last, you know, to play sports, because that's supposed to be You're supposed to do that with two people. But he just hit it up. No one picked him, so he had to do both parts one. Yeah, he's that one kid that actually plays tennis with the other half up right.

28:59 What I'm saying is we're Indian kids. We always got picked last. It didn't matter what side of the globe you were on. Nobody would pick up basketballs like Sharma's the one. It turns out that the Western hemisphere didn't have the exclusive on that. Yeah, that's why there's three Indians in Okay, two point four billion of us, only three have played in the NBA Okay, and none of them play anymore one's a professional wrestler than two of them are a real estate. But also, like the three billion other ones you just mentioned, they also were not picked first. No, that's why they had time to go have sex. They weren't they weren't playing any sports, Like, that's the why we just keep pro creating. Yeah, you'll never hear, you know, a basketball game where you know, like I've said this before, you won't be sitting at a bar.

29:49 This is how we're not known for athletics. You'll never be sitting at a bar and some guy turned you and be like, oh man, cowboys would have won had Patail caught the ball. Like, you'll never. That'll never happen. So what you're saying is you can have a medical expert, doctor Sanjay Gupta on you know, like CNN. Yes, but you're not gonna get a doctor SONJ like you had doctor J in the NBA. No, unless he's actually the team doctor. You're in the Treehouse. Visit us online at Treehouse on air dot com.

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31:27 Hey guys, it's Linda. So the other day you were talking about the sharing of food and everything. So my husband never eats all of his fries and I shouldn't eat all of my fries. So we decided that we would start getting large and sharing that that is the only food that we share. The other day, he offered me a bite of his meal, and I was convinced that the aliens came and abducted him and I will never see my husband again, or that was the bite that he poisoned. I haven't decided yet. Tell me you've been married for many year without telling me you've been married for many years, because once you start considering poisoning the other one, I feel like that's a ten plus marriage ten year plus kind of a situation.

32:11 In Hollywood, it could be ten minutes. Hollywood moves at a different pace than the rest of us do. Before we jump into Linda's talkback here, if you would like to leave us talk back, do so on our website Treehouse on Air dot com. Click on the microphone lower right hand corner, and you can drop us a comment about something you heard on the show, something you saw on social media, whatever the case is. Drop it in our talkback Treehouse on Air dot com microphone lower right hand corner, and we just might play it here on the show. All right, So Linda and her husband, thank you, Linda for the message. The only food they share is French fries, so they have their boundaries set. They both know this is the only food we share. It's the fries. Raj, you share no food?

33:02 Mm hm, Trey, where do you fall on this again? I'm fine sharing food, just open borders. Yeah, which is very odd since you're the Republican in the tree. Uh so have you and your new you and your new girlfriend have has this happened to you guys yet? With the food where she's like, hey, can I have some? And you were like yes? Or did you have some of hers? Uh? Dan, you got really off set you're you get really out of whack. Uh, But uh yeah, it's We've had like one instance where we went out and we had Italian and uh, she tried a little bit of mine.

33:50 I tried a bit of hers. It was no big deal, and it stayed. Would just try a little bit and it didn't turn into her eating all of yours. Honestly, no, because the portions were so big she could have it. It was actually one of those meals where we could have split something and been plenty. But it's like going to Buka to Beppo back in the day and getting a meatball that's enough for four. Yes. So my first run in with this was back in high school. I had a girlfriend in high school and she loved, loved going to Chili's, Right, But I realized after our second time going to Chili's why she loved it so much, because she would always get a chicken caesar salad.

34:40 Right. I would get something you know good at Chili's, you know, like the chicken crispers or something like that, or the burger, and she inevitably would eat my stuff. So I learned very early on you got to set some boundaries when it comes to the food in a relationship, because she very much felt like it didn't count if she ordered her salad and ate half of my chicken crispers. And at one point I had to tell her, Look, if you want one of these tenders, you're gonna to get your own, because you're not even eating that salad. This is ridiculous. I'm in high school and keeping in mind, minimum wage hasn't gone up much since then, so while I might have been a baller for the nineties, by today's standards, not very good. My point is I wasn't made of money in high school. So if you're going to order it, eat it, don't just eat mine.

35:37 Yes, And what about now, Dan, when Tara wants some of your food, what do you do? You put your foot down and say no. No, our situation is different. Because our situation is different. I e. In the bathroom, I eat in the shadows. You'll never get any of my precious.

36:17 I hate you, No, our food situation is different. It's like, usually, depending on what we get, she'll usually end up giving me a little bit of whatever is left of hers because she doesn't finish something, so she'll give me some of that. Oh, that's that's nice of her. Throwing the scraps, very sweet. It's actually just a trail of them out, like leading out of the bathroom into the light. Does she give it to you inside your cage or outside of it? I'm sorry, Kennel, Kennel, that's not cage anymore. As long as the water's full, it's fine.

37:02 And you don't poop on the rug, that's good. Like I do have to clean up my own box. Now. Our food, our food thing is normal. Like if she wants a little bit, I'm fine with it because she doesn't typically eat She doesn't. She doesn't do the thing where she orders hers and then eats mine. She doesn't do that. Dotcha. Okay, that's so nope, I can't. I can't. Like just hearing your sharing stories make me like cringe. I'm like, just eat your own food. You you picked it, you eat it. I can approach it from a pragmatic point of view. Okay, So take my marriage out of it.

37:44 If someone was to ask, hey, what should I do about this? You could always ask. Because if you're not like at the early stages of dating, and she says, hey, can I have some of that? You could simply respond to her who's paying for this? Who? Because financially or emotionally, Well. Those are two separate questions, because you can ask her. If you're paying for this meal, then have at it. If I'm paying for this meal, then you get to set the ground rules. And if you're going Dutch, then you eat yours. I eat mine. But you're right, the emotional aspect of it is a completely different thing. Right, gotcha. Yeah, I'm I'm saying that's the I'm not saying that's the right way to go. I'm just saying it's a way you could go.

38:30 Okay, if you ever you ever try that out? Oh god, No, I'm not stupid. I'm happy to I'm happy to eat in the dark bathroom. I don't want to be forced to eat outside. I just feel like you, whoever asked the question, who's paying for this, It's going to be you. Both financially and emotionally. Yeah. Yeah, the meal is the cheap part. For all things three House. Hit that website three House on air dot com, and do us a solid Share the show with a friend today from your favorite listening platform.

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