Jan. 16, 2026

Treehouse Presents: Sympathy for the Devil? | Unsolicited Episode 16

Treehouse Presents: Sympathy for the Devil? | Unsolicited Episode 16
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Can you go from INFAMY to SYMPATHY? Kristin Cabot, one half of the viral Coldplay Couple Controversy, thinks so, and she's sick of being judged. We also throw hot takes around about Dance Soccer, do you want to work for joy or money, and is it ok to (sort of) DRUG someone else's kid? This is Unsolicited 16, a special presentation from the Treehouse.

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Hey, Daniel Malley here from the Treehouse Show. I'd like

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to introduce you to another show I've been working on

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with our friend Rebecca Black. It's called Unsolicited. It's a

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show with hot takes and bold opinions on some really

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wild stories. And what you're about to hear is Unsolicited

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episode sixteen, titled Sympathy for the Devil. If you like it,

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give some of our other shows a listen right here

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on this platform. I've also included a couple of links

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in the show description. Thanks for listening, and now prepare

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to laugh and cringe with me Daniel Malley and Rebecca

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Black as we say what needs to be said even

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if no one asked. This is Unsolicited. You didn't ask

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for it, but you need to hear it. Hot takes

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and bold opinions today on drugging children yay in office

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or work from home. Ooh, and we'll disco foot ruin

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this show.

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I'm intrigued.

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I am too, and I know what's gonna happen. We

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are going to say what needs to be said even

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if no one asked. She is Rebecca Black, I'm Dan, O'Malley,

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and this is Unsolicited. Today we start with this can

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you go from infamy to sympathy? Kristin Cabot was caught

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in her boss's arms at a Coldplay concert last year,

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and well she's done hiding now now she now she

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is the one doing the finger pointing.

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Oh, it's everyone else's fault, but hers will.

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She does take some accountability, but like I said, along

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with a little bit of that responsibility she takes, she

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starts trying to spread around some shame. That's not all hers.

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Okay.

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Kristin Cabot, the former head of HR for Astronomer. The company,

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is airing her grievances after becoming the fodder for social

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commentary in the aftermath of getting caught, embraced her boss

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in the summer's most viral coldplate kiss ma'am Kiss cam moment.

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In her first interview since the moment made headlines, Cabot

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recounted how she felt famous figures, including celebrities like Gwyneth

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Paltrow and the co hosts of the view, made her

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humiliation their material. She told the UK newspaper The Times

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that once internet sleuths identified her and the CEO of Astronomer,

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and the original TikTok video received one hundred million views

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within days. The incident took a life of its own.

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She says, my immediate reaction was holy, s Andrew's here.

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That's what she told the news outlet, referring to her

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estranged husband, Andrew Cabot, the CEO of a rum distillery.

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We were in the middle of an incredibly and amazingly

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amicable separation. I was worried I would embarrass him. He's

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an amazing guy and does not deserve that. She continues.

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Then a beat later, my mind turns to, oh god,

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Andy's myfing boss. This is a bad look. Boston's not

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a big town. And while it wasn't an astronomer event

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or anything, there could have been investors or other staff.

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There a quick break here from the story. Rebecca, do

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you really think all those thoughts ran through her mind?

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No, I don't at all. I think she's had plenty

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of time to now think about it, and I think

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she's maybe mad that people are profiting off of something

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that she did and she's not getting a cut of it.

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That that is a solid take.

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Yeah, Like I mean, in all honesty, she's looking back

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and she's like, oh man, Gwyneth Paltrow made money off

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of me. Even the company made money off of the

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whole incident, Like there are stocks and stuff skyrocketed, So

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I guarantee you most of this is going to be

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boiling down to a money situation.

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Yeah. Well, Cabot and the now former astronomer CEO Andy

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Byron were with friends watching Coldplay perform in Foxboro, Massachusetts,

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on July sixteenth. God, I can't that was that long ago.

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It doesn't feel like that long ago.

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No, it doesn't at all. Wow, that was in the summertime.

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Then the JumboTron cut to Byron and Cabot cuddling in

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the crowd. The pair immediately scrambled a part upon spotting

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themselves on the big screen, prompting lead singer Chris Martin

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to remark, either they're having an affair or they're just

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very shy.

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So you know what's funny about that whole thing. If

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they had just acted normal, nobody would have known. Nobody

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would have had a clue if they weren't married, and

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that they were cheating on their spouses. If they had

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just acted normal. But the moment you duck out of

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the picture, okay, red flag Spidey senses up.

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That spotlight just got brighter.

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Yeah, I mean enough for Chris Martin to chime in.

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And he nailed it. He absolutely nailed it. Was like

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he was like al Michaels calling the US hockey team

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beating the Russian team. Do you believe in miracles type

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of moment. Yeah, Chris Martin throws up there either they're cheating.

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It's like he nailed it. He absolutely nailed it.

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Did absolutely.

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Did you ever see the crowd shots, like the wide

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shots of that concert sort of from behind stage behind

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Chris Martin from a low angle, and you could look

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up into the right a little bit and see the

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pair and their embrace up in the balcony. I mean,

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even even without that light shining on them. This is

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before the moment happened, before the kiss cam happened, you

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could see them Blaine as day. It's obvious to see

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why the kiss cam went to them, because they're standing

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out at the edge of the balcony like. Look, it

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was almost like Leo and Kate in Titanic.

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I was gonna say that they were literally I mean,

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if you are you willing to sit there through an

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entire concert and embrace one another, absolutely the camera is

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going to come at you at some point, like, what

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are you thinking? That's weird?

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Why?

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First of all, why touching this much in public? That's weird?

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Yeah, And my take on it is this, both of them,

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the CEO and the head of HR and Dean Kristen,

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they both have said it was something that happened in

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the moment and we regret it. There was no long

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established affair, nothing like that. It was just a bad

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decision in the moment. I call bs on all that

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the same, they seemed quite comfortable in each other's arms,

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So I don't believe that they were not having an

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affair leading up to that moment.

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No, not at all. And like I know she said

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she was, they were already going through like the separation process.

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Why is it so difficult for people to just wait?

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Why is it so hard to just wait until the

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divorce is final so that it makes life easier and

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better for everyone when that paperwork is taken care of.

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I have a theory. Okay, So in that divorce situation,

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The way my theory works is it's kind of like

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when you're a kid in elementary school and you're counting

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down to recess and when recess and when the recess

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bell hits. What happens, You shoot out of your desk

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and you blow through those doors at the end of

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the hallway and you're running out onto the playground in

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the field, as are all the rest of the kids. Right,

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So you are not you're not just going out to recess.

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You are being unleashed upon the playground.

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Okay, I get that, because you've.

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Been cooped up for like three to four hours. Right.

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That's the type of marriage that these people were probably in.

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They knew they were gonna leave it, they knew the

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marriage was going to end, they knew the divorce is

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going to happen, but they feel cooped up like they're

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in second grade math and just are counting down to recession,

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counting down to recess. Yeah, right. And so when it

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actually happens and they separate, that's when the doors to

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recess open up and the bell rings and there they go.

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They don't even wait for the official divorce papers. Okay, now,

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feel like they've been told it's okay to go do this,

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even though by low standards it's not.

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I get what you're saying. However, in the situation with Recess,

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the teacher has already announced that recess is coming in

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twenty thirty forty minutes. Right, So at the very least

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you should have made some kind of an announcement to

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your inner circle of people, like, hey, the separation is

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coming in three two one. That way, people aren't like

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questioning what you're doing with somebody else when you haven't

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actually announced a separation. Does that make sense?

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Oh? Yeah, No, that totally does in my version of

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my of my off the cuff metaphor here, Yeah, is

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that your spouse is in the class with you and

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you're both looking recess.

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Yeah, I agree with you on that absolutely.

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Yeah. So if by her words, the amicable separation going great,

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he might be doing the same thing. But he may

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not be doing it on a jumbo dron somewhere. He

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might just be doing it in quiet.

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Right, absolutely. And also the odds of going to a

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concert and like going viral are slim to none. Like

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I said, if they had just played it cool, nobody

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would have been the wiser.

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And that's the other side of my belief on this.

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They knew, yeah, so much that what they were doing

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was wrong. Their immediate reaction was the most honest.

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Yeah, Like they caught them, They caught theirselves, if that

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makes sense. They told on theirselves.

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In order to in that situation, in order to respond

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in a calm, cool, collected manner and not draw additional

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attention to yourselves, you would have had to have you

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would have had to have rehearsed it or been through

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it before. So it's kind of like in sports, you

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practice practice, practice, so when it comes time for game now,

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it's just muscle memory.

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Right exactly. And they have not done that.

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Clearly, No, there was no practice. They went straight to

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the game and they're like, ah, if they split and

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think Chris Martin called them out and the rest is

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honestly infamy. Yeah. So, based on a little bit I've

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shared with you so far on the story about their

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situation becoming material for the view an ad for a

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Gwyneth Paltrow to do our show and countless other shows,

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is it wrong of us to use her and her

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situation as material.

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I'm not going to say it's wrong, but I will

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also won't say it's right. It's definitely a blurred line

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type situation. But I'm also from the camp of like, hey,

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if you don't want people exploiting something that you've done,

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don't put it out there, like, never put yourself in

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the position of somebody recording you doing something wrong to

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incriminate you or whatever. Right, it's the same reason I

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won't get the DNA stuff like the twenty three and me.

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I ain't doing it because I don't want my DNA

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showing up somewhere along the lines of murder. Okay, that's

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the whole thing, Like, I won't do it so I

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don't get caught even if I haven't done anything, just.

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In case you decide.

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To murder something the case, I've always got that in

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my back pocket. I'm safe.

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I've gone the opposite route. I did the ancestry DNA thing.

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When that came along, there was a I think there

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was a Black Friday sale. My wife bought it, and

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I was like, yeah, I'll do it. I am a

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forty six year old man who is adopted at birth

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with no knowledge or information about my biological family, and

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I was presented a Black Friday deal to throw a

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grenade into some people's lives.

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You're like, do it.

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Hell, yeah, let's drop that sucker, Let's see what happens.

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Guess what come of it. No, that's the downside of

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being the grenade is that there has to be people

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on the receiving end of it, because the apparently the

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people that were involved in my conception have done a

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really good job of keeping it quiet, so much so

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that they're like, we're not taking those tests.

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So they're like me, why're not getting caught for nothing? Man?

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That's right, And so I kind of give them credit

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on that makes me think they're, you know, big picture

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thinkers like I am. So I appreciate it.

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Yeah, there you go. That's where you got it from

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your non existent parents.

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That sounds so bad, it does, but it's okay. I'm

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semi adjusted to it. The astronomer former Cheap People Officer, which,

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by the way, I hate that I chief people officer.

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That's such a lame ass title. Anyway. Kristin Cabot, the

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astronomer former Chief People Officer, felt that the company poured

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fuel on the raging fire when they shared an ad

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featuring Gwyneth Paltrow as a temporary spokesperson shortly after the

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incident occurred. Because Paltrow was likely chosen because she was

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married to Coleplaz Chris Martin from two thousand and three

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to twenty sixteen and they share two kids.

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Together, exactly why they chose her, and.

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If memory serves me correctly, the company behind that ad

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on such a quick turnaround was none other than Maximum Effort,

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which is the company owned by Ryan Reynolds, who excel

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in these quick turnaround ad campaigns, taking advantage of a

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viral moment and extending it for a benefit. And that's

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exactly what happened here.

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It was literally a classic case of marketing one oh one.

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Exactly what you should do in this situation is exploit

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it for all its worth, and they did. And now

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it's over with lady like, move on, we've all moved on.

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Well, now she wants sympathy. She told The Times that

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she was appalled and threw away everything she owned from

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Paltrow's Goop brand.

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Oh no, she threw it away.

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Yeah, that'll show her. She says. I was such a

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fan of her company, which seemed to be about uplifting women,

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and then she did this. I thought, how dare she?

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After the beating she got for all the conscious un

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coupling stuff. What a hypocrite? Ooh there it is.

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I mean, I do feel like though Gwyneth did a

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real good job of playing all that into her brand.

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I think she did a nice rollover after the divorce

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and into Goop. Yeah, I just I don't think you

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can be mad at what if Paltrow for cashing in

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on something. Yeah, I don't think she's just mad because

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she's not getting a payout. I guarantee you she's.

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Mad about that because, on one hand, if I was

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in her shoes, my thoughts would be, Okay, if a

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bunch of other people are making money on my situation,

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I should be too, And I don't disagree with that same. Yeah,

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the problem is she doesn't know how to do it right.

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She doesn't know how to monetize her her viral moment

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basically right.

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She could have started with like scandalous, a fair candle

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line or something and really could have skyrocketed and made

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some serious cash in on it.

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whole thing could have or would have worked out, it

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might have been a situation there for you know, a

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lawsuit on her part against the company. I mean, there's

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all these different angles that could have would have should

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have happened. But at the end of the day, I

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think what happened was what was supposed to happen. They

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got caught, they knew they got caught, and they immediately,

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you know, tried to hide and it was all over

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from there because you can't come back from that. They

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caught you in an honest reaction and you went into hiding.

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if anything, learn from Like when David Letterman got caught

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cheating and somebody tried to blackmail him and then he

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just came out with all of it and they had

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nothing on him and he everybody forgave him. Right, if

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you had just gone in and been like, yeah, we

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did this really bad thing. We probably shouldn't have done this.

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We probably shouldn't have done that, but we're not going

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to hide. We're you know, they probably would have saved

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some face here.

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caught yes with a hooker in La He went on

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Leno Show and said, yeah, I did this thing.

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I'm very stupid. Everybody forgive me and guess what we

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all did.

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Yeah, and it removes all that additional fodder. So this

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is what happens when you when you vacate and you

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leave a vacuum the vacuum is gonna suck something up,

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and if you're not there, it's gonna it's gonna find

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some other stuff.

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Yeah, it's gonna be you.

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Bye. This might be the most divisive topic we've ever

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covered on Unsolicited, really the most unexpected, yet possibly the

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most divisive. Okay, I feel like when you see this

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and hear this, you will you will think of me

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on one side of the field and Rebecca on the

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opposite side. Okay, And in the center is a game

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of disco foot, and.

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You combine soccer and dancing. It's called disco foot. Here's

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everything you need to know. Disco foot is both a

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soccer match and a dance performance. It combines the basic

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rules of soccer, but has one rather important difference. Dancing

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is required at all times.

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So for those of you listening to the Unsolicited Show podcast,

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open up your minds, yeah and listen to me, or

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take a quick break and go watch this portion on

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the YouTube side of things, because that helps you. But

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imagine a very small astro turf soccer field with a

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number of adults not really playing soccer as it is,

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They're dancing around a soccer ball.

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It's like interpretive soccer Ooh.

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That's a good way to put it. I like that.

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Yeah, also while wearing gold lemet shorts.

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And I appreciate that the two guys doing their warm

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up stretches or maybe that was one of the dances.

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I don't but yeah, both teams are doing their own

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dances irrespective of each other, so it's not a coordinated

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dance between the two teams. Each team is doing its

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own thing. And then occasionally someone kicks a ball, then

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maybe it goes into a net. Now back to our

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explanation from the package.

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Continuous dance improvisation follows the soccer ball but also gives

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merit to what is referred to as the battle, which

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plays a vital role in winning the game. The sport

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was created on April thirteenth, twenty sixteenth, and conceptualized for

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the Ballet de Lorraine, a French contemporary dance company, by

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Peter Jacobson and Thomas Kyley, two dancers and choreographers who

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have collaborated with one another since the nineties. A twenty

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eighteen TV special called Disco Foot, written and directed by

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Jacobson and Kaylee, highlights the performance match for all to enjoy.

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Each match features one referee and three artistic judges. The

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judges assess the teams on their artistic merit, scoring them twice,

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first at halftime and then again at the end of

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the match.

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I literally just gave the judges a lapto dance.

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Yeah, this is how you win. This is unruly, that's

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what this is. Look in some of the in some

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of the dances that they're doing in the background, Yeah,

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it looks like a money python choreographed dance kind of

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a thing.

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I just love the like, Lord's a leaping back there.

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There was that guy who was in front of the

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wall like they're doing are they're doing a kick, you know,

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and you're supposed to have the wall to protect in

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front of the goal. Yes, And then the guy just

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does the leaping thing across all of it, and that

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he's not playing soccer. That guy is there to dance.

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I mean, I think everyone is there to dance. That's

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certainly what it seems like. I'm not mad at the sport, though,

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I kind of like it. Well I play it, no,

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but will I watch and laugh?

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Yes, that's where we find the world, that's where we

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find ourselves. Now you won one into that field dancing

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around like a crazy person and me on the other

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side thinking I came to play soccer.

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But the dance comes first. Soccer is the second in

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the in the list, so it's it's not as important.

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You're right. I mean it's there in the name disco foot.

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It's not foot disco because.

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It was foot disco. Different story.

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Yeah, my thing is. Look, I am a sports guy.

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I like my sports. I love my sports. And if

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you want to dance, I say dance. Dance is an

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amazing art form. I don't need the two combined. Unless

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you're just so happy after having scored a goal or

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a touchdown, then you do a celebration dance. Fine, okay,

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but I don't need both at the same time.

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You want to keep it separate.

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Yes, I want. I want you to play the sport

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and then when something great happens, you're so excited, then

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you break out into a small dance. Fine, but I

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don't want the halftime show and the game itself to collide.

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But they're just having a good time, Dan, Why you

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want to squash They're fun.

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Normally I'm on team you do you, but in this case,

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I want you to stop.

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I see nothing wrong with it. I'm here for it.

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In fact, I think the spectator portion of the game

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is probably the most fun. Like, give me a glass

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of champagne and I could probably watch this all day long.

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See, I can't say anything against your logic because that's

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how most of us men watch sports already, is just

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to drink and watch. So I can't fault your logic there.

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I'm still faulting what's happening on the field itself.

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I think if you have a few more drinks, then

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you will be a part of the game and you'll

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enjoy yourself.

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That's going to take more tequila than exists on this planet,

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because that's not going to happen with typical liquor. That's

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got to be special tequila stuff. You know what. Actually,

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maybe even above that, like you got to bring out

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the official absinthe in order for me to want to

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watch this sport it?

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Do you? What is it? What's the worst part of it?

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Is it the outfits that they're having to wear? Is

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it the fact that there's really no competitive sport happening. Really,

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they're just dancing. It's just like a dance party, that's

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what it is.

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If it's just and then again, I'm not against dancing.

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I'm all for it. I grew up in a very

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theatrical family while at the same time being an athlete

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and trying to be an athlete in the middle of

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this theatrical family, So I am a hybrid of the two. Okay,

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I don't mind. I don't mind if you have a

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play action pass followed by a Potter beret. I just

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don't want them at the same time.

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This kind of reminds me of quiddache. Remember when everybody

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was playing the Harry Potter game and we're like, but

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how does it work because you can't fly.

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I'm with you. To me, that was silly because it's

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suppused to dud just running around on broomsticks. It's like

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you're not playing the sport unless you're flying around strap

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a jetpack on your back. And now you do some

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real quidditch.

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I mean technicality on that end. I mean I again,

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I still don't understand how you play the game. I

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get it, there's dancing, there is a soccer ball, but

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how do you actually like score and win?

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I'm glad you asked.

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Here we go, the judges assess the teams on their

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artistic merit, scoring them twice, first at halftime and then

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again at the end of the match. These scores are

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combined with any goals scored to determine the winning team. Remarkably,

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a team can win by excelling in dance even if

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they haven't scored any goals. A standout feature to disco

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foot is its inclusivity. All genders are welcome on the

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field and self expression is wholeheartedly encouraged. As the Ballet

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de Lorraine puts it, this match doesn't have time for

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the usual hyper masculinity attributed to football. We're just too

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busy dancing. Would you play disco foot? Let us know

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in the comments.

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That's my favorite line of the entire piece. We don't

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have time for the hypermasculinity of football. We're too busy dancing.

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I love it. I think it's great. I'm like you

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do you Bravo, I'll sit in why. I don't know.

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Like I said, I don't know that I would play it,

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but I would definitely.

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I'm the guy that if I was playing it, i'd

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be super super angry because while everyone's dancing, I'm racking

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up goals and it's not gonna effing matter because my

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goals don't count at the same level as a choreographed

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dance routine.

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Okay, have you ever witnessed, like the three and four

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year olds playing soccer? This is an appropriate representation of

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one of those.

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Games, except choreographed.

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Yes, but honestly, how can you tell if it's actually choreographed?

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It looks to me is sometimes that everybody's doing like

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their own thing, which is exactly what children look like

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on the soccer field.

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A recent survey has divided the internet. Business Insider asked,

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would you prefer a two hundred and forty thousand dollars

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a year in office job or a one one hundred

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twenty thousand dollars a year remote one? Ooh, yeah, this

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is a This is really interesting in the findings were

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extremely fascinating because respondents were split. Yeah, with the lower

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paying remote job winning by one vote.

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00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:22.079
That's what I thought, one vote.

471
00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:24.720
One vote. That's how closely split this was. And I

472
00:25:24.799 --> 00:25:28.599
am kind of stunned. Five days a week in the

473
00:25:28.640 --> 00:25:34.839
office for double the amount of money than the work

474
00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:37.839
from home gig. And we're not talking like a thirty

475
00:25:37.920 --> 00:25:42.839
versus a sixty you know, income differential here, right, We're

476
00:25:42.839 --> 00:25:45.720
already talking about a good paying job at one twenty

477
00:25:46.160 --> 00:25:48.960
or two forty, which is a totally different level in

478
00:25:49.039 --> 00:25:50.359
my mind.

479
00:25:51.119 --> 00:25:53.559
Yeah, no, I agree, it's a it's definitely a big

480
00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:57.400
money difference for sure, but I think that work from

481
00:25:57.480 --> 00:25:59.839
home has a lot of perks.

482
00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:04.079
Three hundred and sixty five readers answered the informal survey

483
00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:08.480
following a viral TikTok. One hundred and eighty three answered

484
00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:12.000
they would choose the one hundred twenty thousand dollars remote gig,

485
00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:15.599
while one hundred and eighty two just one less chose

486
00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:18.880
to go five days in person for double the salary

487
00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:22.599
and follow up conversations, eight respondents, four on each side,

488
00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:27.160
explained why they made their choices. While the reader's survey

489
00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:30.160
is not scientific, the results and the reasons people gave

490
00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:32.079
for why they voted the way they did offer insight

491
00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:36.640
into how workers today view those trade offs. So you

492
00:26:36.759 --> 00:26:39.759
got one person said, if it wasn't for remote based work,

493
00:26:39.799 --> 00:26:42.559
we probably wouldn't be able to attract and retain talent

494
00:26:42.599 --> 00:26:44.799
that we have. That's from someone who is in a

495
00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:50.279
hiring position. You've got one respondent named Arlton. He says

496
00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:52.240
life is meant to be lived, not to be put

497
00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:55.720
under the microscope. He's advocating for remote work and of

498
00:26:55.759 --> 00:26:58.839
course trying to be more open for travel. One person said,

499
00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:02.359
so much happier working from home.

500
00:27:04.119 --> 00:27:06.960
I don't disagree with any of the reasons that have

501
00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:09.799
been brought forth at all. I mean I've had I've

502
00:27:09.799 --> 00:27:11.559
had both situations where I've had to go into an

503
00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:13.880
office job, and then I've had situations where I've worked

504
00:27:13.880 --> 00:27:17.240
at home, and being able to roll out of bed

505
00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:26.960
and go to work is phenomenal. Yeah, there is really nice.

506
00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:31.359
I'm a firm believer in if you can do the

507
00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:34.599
job just as well from home as you can in

508
00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:37.559
the office, then there really shouldn't be that much of

509
00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:42.440
a pay difference. Agreed Now before we're talking like a

510
00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:45.880
five percent difference kind of a thing, and you get

511
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:48.759
five percent more being in the office, then yeah, I

512
00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:51.559
think you really would get a lot more people saying no,

513
00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:53.200
I'd rather stay home, it's not worth it. Yeah.

514
00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:54.200
Sure. To me.

515
00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:57.240
Once you double that salary going from one twenty to

516
00:27:57.279 --> 00:28:00.960
two forty, I am I will make that extra money

517
00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:04.319
and buy a GD Prius to get the extra gas

518
00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:06.400
models to get me to that five day word job

519
00:28:06.519 --> 00:28:10.119
I will take. I want that bag that's what I am.

520
00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:12.920
I am at the age now where I'm done being

521
00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:14.799
a man for the company and kind of stuff. I

522
00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:18.039
am now transactional. I want the money, showed me the money,

523
00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:18.920
Give me the money.

524
00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:21.680
No, I get that. I totally understand where you're coming from.

525
00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:24.720
But I also feel like, maybe you haven't worked with

526
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:27.920
a really, really stupid boss.

527
00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:33.880
I'm gonna need about five minutes to go laugh over here.

528
00:28:39.839 --> 00:28:42.720
I can tell you if I had to, if I

529
00:28:42.759 --> 00:28:47.519
had the option to avoid a certain boss for the

530
00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:50.440
entirety of my career while working under them, I would

531
00:28:50.440 --> 00:28:54.559
have absolutely chosen stay at home to avoid it altogether.

532
00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:59.799
I certainly understand and appreciate that perspective. When I was going,

533
00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:03.200
I was like, you're going to pay me. If you

534
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:05.240
want me to keep going through it, you are going

535
00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:07.759
to have to pay me. And they kind of did so.

536
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:09.839
I stayed with it for a little while, and.

537
00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:10.920
We all did.

538
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:13.240
It worked out for the time that it did, and

539
00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:18.720
then eventually it came to uh the unsurprising end, but

540
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:22.319
ultimately I at least got paid through the turmoil.

541
00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:26.000
Yeah, okay, I get that. Sure. I think anybody can

542
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:28.640
put up with with enough awfulness if you're getting paid

543
00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:29.559
the right amount of money.

544
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:32.359
For sure, that's the idea, And that was also kind

545
00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:35.920
of my negotiating uh you know standpoint. I was like, look,

546
00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:38.319
you can pay me to deal with this situation, or

547
00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:40.480
you can deal with it. And they're like, would you

548
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:42.799
take what you sign here please? Yeah, find must do it.

549
00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:47.440
So you're definitely going with the money. You want more

550
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:49.039
money to be in office.

551
00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:51.680
Yes, I know what it's like to work for money

552
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:56.319
and be miserable. It might be my lane. You're like,

553
00:29:56.519 --> 00:30:00.519
I'm so good at it now I am. I am

554
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:02.920
a veteran at this. I can do it. I've done

555
00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:05.640
it before, I can do it again. And that's just

556
00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:07.200
how much I want some money right now.

557
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:09.759
So but like, even though I know I've done it

558
00:30:09.799 --> 00:30:11.839
and I could do it, and I've done it before

559
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:14.039
and I could do it again, I still think I'm

560
00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:17.400
going to opt for less money to stay at home.

561
00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:21.240
Yeah. Now, if you were to reframe the question, okay, okay,

562
00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:23.759
if you were to reframe the question to being this

563
00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:27.920
two hundred and forty thousand dollars a year working at

564
00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:31.559
a company that's stupid five days a week in office

565
00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:36.119
versus half that salary one hundred and twenty grand. That's

566
00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:39.119
even not a salary. It's just me working for myself,

567
00:30:39.160 --> 00:30:41.440
doing what I want to do, day in, day out,

568
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:46.640
without having to answer to anybody. Oh easily, Yes, keep

569
00:30:46.680 --> 00:30:48.960
the bag. I'll take my portion of it, and I

570
00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:50.640
will live extremely happy.

571
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:53.200
Yeah. Absolutely, I totally agree with you on that pie.

572
00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:56.799
That's my problem with the hypothetical question there, which is

573
00:30:57.279 --> 00:30:59.359
if you want me to take the lower side, I

574
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:02.240
need something more attractive for me other than just I

575
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:05.559
get to stay at home, because just because I'm staying

576
00:31:05.599 --> 00:31:08.000
at home, if I'm working for the same company, doing

577
00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:10.799
the same job with two different salaries based on location

578
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:13.960
in office or at home, I'm still working for a

579
00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:16.759
dumb company. Right, True, But I do.

580
00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:19.359
Think it's a lot more difficult to micro manage somebody

581
00:31:19.359 --> 00:31:22.480
when they're working from home, right I think you're I

582
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:24.079
think it's a lot easier to be like, hey, this

583
00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:26.319
is your deadline, just make sure you get it done

584
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:28.400
within this timeframe. So have I feel like you have

585
00:31:28.559 --> 00:31:30.920
somebody off your back? Does that make sense?

586
00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:35.839
I would if I hadn't seen and experienced people working

587
00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:41.240
from home with the company looking and watching and tracking

588
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:42.920
every minute of your day.

589
00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:43.839
Yeah.

590
00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:45.799
No, I I if anything.

591
00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:49.640
Yeah, because depending on the job, depending on the company,

592
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:52.920
depending on your boss, working from home might get more

593
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:55.200
micro managed than if you were in the office, because

594
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:57.519
if I'm in the office, they think I'm in there

595
00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:00.799
somewhere I can hide, but they're just glad to know

596
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:01.400
I'm there.

597
00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:05.519
How many hours do you think you've spent in the

598
00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:06.759
bathroom at the office.

599
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:17.119
Oh, I got my mind's worth. A mom wants to

600
00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:22.359
know if she's overreacting because her kid was given melatonin

601
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:23.599
at a sleepover.

602
00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:28.720
Wow.

603
00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:33.559
Yeah. One mom on the parenting Reddit wants to know

604
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:37.319
if she's overreacting after another family gave her son melatonin

605
00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:42.279
multiple times during a trip. She says in the original post,

606
00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:45.519
I'm feeling so shocked and angry. My son came home

607
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:47.720
today from a three day vacation with his friend and

608
00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:50.799
his family. We were all talking about his time and

609
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:53.119
he mentioned he's excited to sleep in his own bed,

610
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:55.880
as he was sharing a bed with his friend during

611
00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:58.000
the trip. We asked if he was hard to sleep with,

612
00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:01.599
and he answered with, well, nobody's snorre and we took melotonin.

613
00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:05.680
This was the first this mom had heard of it,

614
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:08.759
She says, the way my husband and I begged his pardon.

615
00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:11.599
Our son thought we were mad at him, obviously not

616
00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:14.400
his fault, but we weren't asked if they could give

617
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:17.440
him anything. Not only is she upset that they didn't

618
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:21.480
ask permission, she's also angry with herself for not teaching

619
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:24.039
her child not to take medicine from people who are

620
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:27.960
not his parents or his doctor. She says, I'm feeling

621
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:30.920
very irresponsible for not having a talk with him about this,

622
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:34.319
never taking anything from anyone, even parents. But it just

623
00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:37.039
didn't cross my mind. I didn't think I needed to.

624
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:40.640
That was so incredibly stupid of me. I can't believe it.

625
00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:44.559
She also wanted reassurance that she's not overreacting.

626
00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:47.960
Is she Rebecca, I don't think she is.

627
00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:48.400
I don't.

628
00:33:48.480 --> 00:33:50.240
I think you have to ask. I think you got

629
00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:52.400
to say, like, hey, your kid's not sleeping, well you

630
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:54.279
cool if I give him a melotonin We give to

631
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:56.319
our kids all the time, and then you let the

632
00:33:56.359 --> 00:33:58.400
parent make that decision. I don't think you can just

633
00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:02.240
give a baby drugs. I mean, I understand the enticement

634
00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:07.400
to do so, like put those kids down, yeah, knock

635
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:08.440
them on out. I get it.

636
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:13.440
Yeah, especially if you have a bunch of friends along,

637
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:16.360
like like yeah, Like, let's imagine you're the mom, okay,

638
00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:19.639
and it's you and your husband, and you've got two kids,

639
00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:22.280
and you tell them each you can bring a friend

640
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:26.280
on this family trip. So now you've got four kids, right.

641
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:29.440
I get it. If at some point you're like, I've

642
00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:31.440
had it, I've had enough, it's a terrible idea. I'm

643
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:33.360
just gonna slip some melotonin in their sodas and then

644
00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:34.360
enjoyed the evening.

645
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:36.840
Because at this point it's like a five day slumber party.

646
00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:40.119
It's just never going to end. And I get getting

647
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:42.519
to a breaking point and being like a little slippy

648
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:44.599
of in the milk will be fine.

649
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:48.159
I get it, But you still have to ask, Well,

650
00:34:48.199 --> 00:34:53.320
they're in there in lies the strategy, which is if

651
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:57.800
you're the parent who is giving the melotonin to the children, okay,

652
00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:02.639
and you've yeah, the visiting child from another family, Yeah,

653
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:06.119
you have two options, and two options only one you

654
00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:09.119
ask the parents of the visiting child, Hey, is it

655
00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:11.920
okay if we knock them out with some melotonin for bed?

656
00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:14.280
Our kids take it all the time. Totally cool, but

657
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:15.280
we'll leave it up to you.

658
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:16.519
Yeah.

659
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:18.960
Then the other option is you just do it and

660
00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:21.119
don't ask anybody. But you don't tell the kids at

661
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:22.039
all that you're doing it.

662
00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:24.880
That was the biggest mistake of all. You don't tell

663
00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:26.719
those kids. You just put it in their drinks, and

664
00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:28.079
then nobody is the wiser.

665
00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:31.440
Right, you either have to be one hundred percent honest yep,

666
00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:33.159
or one hundred percent lying.

667
00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:37.199
Yeah, you're you're so right. You are absolutely right about.

668
00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:39.880
It, and you're gonna have to live with the consequences

669
00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:45.519
either way. Correct, But if done properly, the kids will never.

670
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:49.039
Know exactly everybody go nine.

671
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:52.840
Night it is. It is kind of a frightening thing though,

672
00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:56.639
that someone would think it's okay, and this is what

673
00:35:56.679 --> 00:36:00.599
we're talking about. Someone would think it's okay to another

674
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:04.719
person's kid. Yeah, I know a lot of people are

675
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:08.320
going to say, that's not the same thing. This is melotone.

676
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:11.039
It's not like you're slipping them benzos or something.

677
00:36:11.039 --> 00:36:14.639
But no, it's a slippery slope. If you're willing to

678
00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:16.920
do it now, who's to say you're not willing to

679
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:19.000
do the later with like vico in or something else.

680
00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:22.199
Especially if the kids built up enough tolerance to melotone,

681
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:24.000
then you've got to step up your pill game to

682
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:24.800
something more different.

683
00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:27.440
Bena drill only works so many times.

684
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:33.360
That's why I need been a drill.

685
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:37.480
Plus, here's too far gone.

686
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:41.119
Got bena drill on tap.

687
00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:46.639
Just put it directly into my veins. It will be fine.

688
00:36:48.039 --> 00:36:49.760
Timmy, where'd you learn how to shoot up?

689
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:55.360
Like this is legit the original like dare situation, or

690
00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:58.679
like you don't don't take candy from strangers, right, don't

691
00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:01.199
take me melotone and from Timmy's mom.

692
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:05.800
Yeah, and look I get it. That's like I do

693
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:10.440
feel bad for this mom for feeling so responsible and

694
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:14.159
feeling so much guilt about not having had this discussion

695
00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:17.199
with her child, like saying, hey, you were only supposed

696
00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:20.480
to take medicine from me or your doctor and that's it.

697
00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:24.880
Nobody else. If if Johnny's mom offers you something, you

698
00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:28.039
say no or you have to ask me, and that's okay.

699
00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:31.079
And if they don't respect it, you call me immediately. Yeah.

700
00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:33.960
I completely understand why she wouldn't think she'd have to

701
00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:37.199
have that conversation because it's such an astronomical thing to

702
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:41.960
imagine another parent giving another kid that is not theirs

703
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:43.599
something out of the medicine cabinet.

704
00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:46.840
Yeah, that's fascinating to me that this other mom just

705
00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:48.960
had no idea it would be a big deal at

706
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:52.119
all to give somebody else's kid any type of drug whatsoever.

707
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:56.280
I mean, I would probably call somebody else's parent if

708
00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:57.559
I'm just giving like Tailan All.

709
00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:02.880
Yeah, I wouldn't give another family's kid no flintstone vitamin. No,

710
00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:05.760
even though I know it's fine and it's mostly sugar anyway,

711
00:38:05.800 --> 00:38:08.679
I still wouldn't do it without asking if they're cool

712
00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:10.000
with it exactly.

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So, I don't even I don't understand the other parent

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in the scenario, not knowing that it just isn't cool

715
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to offer other kids.

716
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Drugs, right, But keep in mind, I am firmly implanted

717
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on the side that it's totally okay to slip it

718
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to them unknowingly.

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I agree. I so agree. It's one or the other.

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There is no middle ground here.

721
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No, I think that's enough unsolicited for today. I feel

722
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like we've mildly implicated ourselves in felonious activities, not that

723
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we've done them, We're just saying we're not one hundred

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percent against them.

725
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Correct.

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