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It is time to believe your warriors outside and laugh
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with us inside the Treehouse. I'm Daniel Matt along with
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Trade Trenholm and Raj Sharma. Lots of happenings at the
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Winter Olympics in Milan. It seems, I mean, people are
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somewhat paying attention to it. One because of the wiener
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juicing with the ski jumpers, but I don't really remember
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a whole lot of PMP and circumstance as far as
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you know, the opening ceremonies and stuff. It just feels
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like so much other stuff is going on. It feels
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like the Winter Olympics are kind of just like a
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backdrop of something happening, as opposed to it usually feels
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more like a forefront. Does it feel that way to you, guys?
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No, I've enjoyed it.
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I mean it's it's always anytime the Olympics are on
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a time delay, I think I think that that affects things,
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but I've actually I've enjoyed the coverage because it's just
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enough of a time delay where you just kind of
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get the highlights at night and especially with the technology now,
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I mean you can go on Peacock or whatever and
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you know, have a multi view thing and you can
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be watching three four events at once.
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If one looks really good, click on that and you
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know it goes full screen.
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But so yeah, because for a while it was you know,
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before streaming really took off, you have multiple channels, like
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NBC what had they'd have and it still is main okay,
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still like that. So you would have like main events
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on NBC, like whatever your local NBC affiliate was. Then
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you would also have other events on other NBC properties USA, USA,
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MSNBC C NBC CNBC, So you'd have all these and
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then the schedule and then the different channels. So yeah,
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I mean having the streaming part of it certainly helps
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if you can find it all in one place. Maybe
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it seemed a little lost for me just because it
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started the same weekend as the Super Bowl did. And
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maybe it'll pick up now that all that's over and
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it gets a little more of the spotlight. I did
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notice though. In addition to the ski jumping situation, the
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big news of the last few days was Lindsey Vaughn
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attempting skiing downhill with a ruptured ACL tendon and ligament
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thank you ligament.
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Sorry, I know better than that.
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With a ruptured ACL, I mean it's right there, it's
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the l end the thing. Yeah, my bad.
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And that's on top of.
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Like she had had partial replacement, but having blown in ACL.
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I don't know how she thought she was gonna downhill ski.
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I mean that that is.
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Yeah, they just covered that on c SPAN, so uh.
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That wasn't even that didn't even make network.
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And that's part of the reason I wanted to bring
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this up is because Trey have I know that you've
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had knee problems. I've known that you've blown out your knee,
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and I didn't know if it was to the same
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degree that she had done hers going into skiing, but.
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I it was one hundred percent blowout.
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It looks like a spaghetti's partial tear ah.
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Meniscus and a cluh.
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Knock on wood. I have not blown out a knee.
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Yet, and I have a torn pcl am.
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I right, well, now, you're just you know, scoreab, you're
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just bragging.
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Look at me.
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I don't know what uh and and and and I.
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Hate to say this because it's the Olympics and it's
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what it is. At her age, she shouldn't be trying
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to do this again.
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That's the other reason why I wanted to bring this up.
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One was because I know that we've got knee experience
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inside the treehouse and because of the opinions flying around
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about whether or not she should have been doing this
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in the first place.
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No, I don't know why. I don't know what the
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motivation is.
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One less go when yeah, that was ultimate competitor and.
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She was doing great, but I have to assume they
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had an alternate for the US Women's downhill skiers, and
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when she popped her ACL nine days before, I don't
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know why they didn't replace her, because I mean, granted,
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she's a level of athlete I never was, and has
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access to you know, training technology, everything else.
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I had ACL reconstruction thirty years ago, actually thirty oh god,
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thirty five years ago. So I know the technology has changed,
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but the structure of the has not. And the a
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CL is what you know, your goes when you're doing
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trying to do lateral motion left to right and when
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you're on skis that that is you are stressing that
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as far as possible.
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I just don't know how they thought she was gonna
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make it.
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I mean, when you had your surgery thirty five years ago,
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did they just give you whiskey and make you bite
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on a stick?
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Well, they did it, and they broke out the hammer
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and chisel for the knee.
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The difference is at that time, they spliced your patella tendon, yes,
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to make your ACL. Where now they'll take it from
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a cadac. What because one of the problems I have
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still to this day, it's not the two screws, it's
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the tendon itis. I will tend to get in in
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the front of my knee from where they splice that tendon.
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Yeah, for sure, so sure.
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So this is why I mean I was curious about
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it because from a physical standpoint.
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Yeah, she shouldn't have been doing it.
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Well no, but hang on, I mean from a physical standpoint,
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my understanding was that she couldn't do any more damage
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to it, right, Like it was already blown. You can't
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do any more damage to that ACL, right.
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I mean, you can't do any more damage to the ACL.
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But there's a PCL and an MCL, right.
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already So what I'm wondering then, is her reasoning for
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wanting to still make the attempt. Was it because I
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can't do any more damage on that because it's already
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blown out?
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Was that?
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I think it was more the fact that she's made
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all this effort to make a comeback and it was
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doing great. I mean, cutis to her at forty one.
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You know she was kicking ass. But again, you've already
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damaged things and then you've got things reconstructed, and this is.
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Just gonna make it worse.
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I mean, this second reconstruction is the arthritis that you're
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going to get the like he was saying, the ten
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of the night is that you're going to get is
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just going to be awful for the rest of your life.
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So there was no point to this. Some people just
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want to remain relevant, that's the thing.
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Well, and I don't know if it's necessarily just being
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a remaining relevant conversation. Think of it in terms of
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like like Michael Jordan the flu game, okay, the flu game,
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had he passed out halfway through that game and didn't
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finish and they lose the game and they lose that series.
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People might have had a similar reaction to what they're
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saying about Lindsay Vaughn, right, but he didn't. Instead, it
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increased his legendary status. Happened with the MAVs with Dirk
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Novinsky with when he had a sick game and had
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an amazing performance. It's very difficult to tell someone who's
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at the top of their game, who already has wild success.
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It's not like someone who's just a really good athlete
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and they're just they're trying to, you know, make their mark.
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We're talking about the people that have already made their mark.
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They're credible, and if they say I'm going to do this,
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don't you just sort of go, all right, well it's
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this person, you let him go.
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Well, but it's it's not I mean, you have to understand.
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It's not like you and Trey getting the flu and
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me getting the flu.
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They have doctors, they have medication, they have IVS.
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So when he was sick uh and he was throwing
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up in the in the locker room, they gave him
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what he needed. They probably gave him Zoe friend. They
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probably gave him a standard steroid iv UH that killed
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it all and that's why he came back into that game.
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Same with Dirk, same with I mean, but Lindsay Vaughan.
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When you're tearing ligaments and muscles and you're actually physically
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hurting your body like that's a hard comeback.
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Especially for someone.
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I mean, she made a name for herself because she
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was borderline reckless in how she skied. That's how she
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was either great or she got injured a lot.
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She also took a nine iron to Tiger Woods, so
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I think that's also didn't.
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She Wasn't she the one that beat his ass?
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No, that was his wife.
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Uh? I thought it was No, that was dated after
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Oh they did it after the wife.
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Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, no Elan was cheating on her
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with Hooters waitresses.
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Uh yeah, no Elan. Elan was first to the tea
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box on Tiger when he was he was cheating on
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her with all the VIP Vegas girls and the Hooters waitress. Okay,
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she's the one that chased him out of the house
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with you know, three wood or whatever.
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I can't remember all of his white girls.
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There was actually some people theorized that he did not
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like the fact that she was famous.
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Uh, that's why he was banging Hooters waitresses of he
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didn't like anybody wanting to be more famous than him.
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Anyway, I was just curious about the Lindsay vonn thing
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because it fascinated me. Here's here's here's an athlete who's
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you know, made her living this way. She's done very
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well for herself. She's trying to do one last hurrah,
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and her her big finish ended up being air lifted
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off the mountain in Italy, which, if.
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We're being honest, it's not too bad.
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I mean it's very special.
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what they say in Hollywood, there's no such thing as
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bad publicity.
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M hm.
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So I mean she's she's getting all the news coverage
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for the Olympics, so you got to I mean.
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She they mounted a campaign with this whole comeback. I
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mean it was certainly marketed well and everything else. Listen,
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I give her credit because once you tear your a
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c l especially mentally, you know you're.
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You're never the same.
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It's really hard because you felt that knee, you felt
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your knee, your joint give out, and it's the weirdest
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feeling in the world.
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And when I ever go back from that.
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Feeling, when I walk down the stairs, I still hold
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It doesn't matter how I'm feeling, I still hold the
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railing because I'm worried that it's gonna something's gonna happen,
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still till this day. And this happened when I was seventeen,
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and now I'm fifty, And every time I walk down
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a flight or come up a flight stairs, I'll hold
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the railing like an old like an old lady, because
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I'm worried that it's gonna give out again.
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Yeah, and that's where I that's where I come from
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as well. When I see people say things on video,
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like when I see comments on the story that Lindsay
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Von crashed in the video of her crashing, people saying like, Ah,
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she shouldn't have been there, she shouldn't have done that.
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That's stupid, that's reckless, she shouldn't have been on that mountain.
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It's like, you really want to be the person to
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tell her no, Well.
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Listen, it's her choice. And it's not like she was
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given the spot. She earned the sport.
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She she was top three. She like I said, she
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was killing killing it.
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in away, and had that not happened, she might have
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been fine and might have had the miracle finished she
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was looking for. I just look at it and go like,
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she's doing that on one leg, and she is doing
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She did more on that mountain on one leg than
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I'm going to do on two all month long.
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What was the more poles than that? He'll get more