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It is time to leave your worries outside and laugh
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with us inside the Treehouse. I'm Daniel Maalley along with
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Trade Trendholm, Jerry Caldwell and special guest longtime friend of
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the show, Billy the Kid from the New Old Mix
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one of two nine Billy the Kid in the Morning
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Show who by the way, I believe the last time
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we had you on the show, I can't remember if
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you were number one yet or we just said you
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would be, But I know I said it long time ago.
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Once word got out and once you got on the
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air with your morning show on Mix, would only be
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a matter of time before you were number one. And
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you are, yes, congradulate and not just number one in
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the demo that you know, in the key demo that
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radio people go after. It's like, oh, no, number one
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overall you Dicky.
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Yeah, you know what I mean. It is cool to
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think about.
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I always hate talking about ratings because it's always like,
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you know, I don't know, it just feels weird.
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But that's because you have them.
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Yeah, well maybe that's part of it.
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The view from the top looks good. You don't have
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to worry about the minutia of quarter hour maintenance and
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and making sure you you set certain appointments, or that
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you have the perfect tea set for the next hour,
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or that you're gonna do second date update for the
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fourth fricking time that day. You're not worried about that stuff.
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You're just out there doing doing a good show. Imagine that.
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It's it's not brain rocket scientists, brain surgery, whatever you
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want to say. It's not that crazy. It's like, but
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you know, you still I still worry about.
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Way too much. I'll tell you that much. Still worry.
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But no, we're having fun.
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I mean right, like you know, and you guys know
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when you do a show and you just have fun
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and you have good energy, like somehow that's attractive and
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cant just to a listener when they know it's not
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made up, and then we're real friends and we're talking
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about real shit. It's not it shouldn't be like some
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weird organized thing where we're gonna do this and so robotic.
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Just have a good time.
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Yeah, it's amazing because I've had to tell a couple
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of program directors that almost exact thing where I remember
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one of them. This is my favorite. I think I've
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told you this before, but when I was working at
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the fan uh and Tom Bigbie, who was the big
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guy in charge at well, I have three of the fan,
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he came in. I was doing a show. It was
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I think it was me and Sean Salisbury. We were
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on in the afternoon at that time, and he comes in.
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He's like, what are you doing radio, Tom, what are
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you doing? And he's like, Oh, you're just inter you're
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having fun, trying to laugh. No, no, no, yeah, it's
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kind of the point there, Tom.
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Yep, that's what we do. That's what you're supposed to do.
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It's supposed to be fun, remember, I mean, you know,
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but if we do genuinely have fun, it sucks it
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up at three thirty in the morning, don't get me wrong,
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but it's worth it most days.
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Now. Imagine imagine your program director walking in the studio
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and telling you and Candace and Pooh, don't talk to
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each other. You're supposed to talk to the audience.
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That's wild.
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That's exactly. That was the second thing out of Tom
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Bigbie's mouth after he told me to stop having fun. Really,
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he looks at me, and Sean says, yeah, you guys
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aren't supposed to be talking to each other. You'posed to
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be talking to the audience. Like then why are we
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here in the side room? Yeah, I could just be
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one person.
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I mean, yeah, of course, like we include the audience,
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But why would we not talk to each other? We're friends?
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This is what friends too. The people listening, I always say,
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are like the fourth person on the show. You just
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can't see him, so like, right, they're involved, it's just
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like we're not. If they could all be in the studio, cool,
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but I mean that's just no, it shouldn't be.
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I just imagine him walking in. It's like it's like,
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would you would you have walked into the Tonight Show
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and told Johnny Carson stopped talking to Ed McMahon. Would
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you have told Jay Leno to stop talking to his
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band leader? Would you have told what was it? Was it?
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Craig Ferguson on CBS Late Late Night? Would you called
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him to stop talking to that robot? No, That's part
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of the reason people would do it in it was fun.
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It is fun, and a lot of those unfortunately, a
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lot of programmers, some were lucky enough to have the
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experience on the air. But I know over the years
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I've worked on for program doctors who've never been on
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the air. Yeah, And I'm like, well, can you imagine
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like a coach coaching baseball that's never played. It'd be
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like hard to listen to and hard to be like, oh, yeah,
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you're right, Like, have you ever done If you've never
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done this, it's really hard to sit there and tell
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me what to do.
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Yeah, and you don't even have to have been good
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at it. You just need to have at least some
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experience of having gone through some of this exactly.
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Yeah.
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Well, we're very happy at your unsurprising success because we
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knew it was going to happen long ago, and we
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were the ones that told you to tell iHeart that
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if they don't give you the morning show, that you
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were going to leave. And I'm glad you listened to us.
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Yeah I did.
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Yeah, you guys are my secret agents. Actually, you know,
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I just talked to you before I do.
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If that was the case, then where's their ten percent?
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I don't negotiate that later.
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Yeah, that's what I thought, all right. So if if
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by some reason you're among the uh the people that
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haven't listened to Billy's show in the morning on Mix
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one of the two, And I do yourself a favor
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and do it as someone that, even though I don't
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live in DFW, I actually still surf around the radio
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sum to my hometown stations to hear what's going on,
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and Billy's is basically the only one that makes me
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feel like I'm at home.
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Oh thank you man.
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That means a lot, because it's one of the things
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I've always pride myself on is talking about things that
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actually happen here. I gotta ever give a shit if
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I'm syndicated to me, It's like, if it happens, cool,
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but I'm still gonna be talking about Dallas and for Worth,
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and so it's always cool to have that vibe of
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like we're just friends. We're here, we're gonna talk about
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what we're doing, and it's hard to fake. I hate
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shows to do that. They fake it like, well, we're
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not worth there, we know you're not there. I'd rather
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someone be transparent with me and be like, we're not there.
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We love that place. But like if they put me
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on in Austin, I'd love to be on Austin again.
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But I'll talk about if I'm doing the show from Austin,
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I talk about Dallas.
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Same thing.
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It's just I don't think people realize, like people don't
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care anymore, just entertain them.
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Yeah, if it's compelling, people don't. Yeah, they don't care.
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They they want to be entertained. And if you make
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you make Dallas stuff funny or entertaining there, they're fine
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with that.
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That's what I think.
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It's part of the reason I've I've made fun of
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Houston for decades. I've never been, and I'm proud, right, Well,
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that's even though I've never been. I don't want anything
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to do with it. Just sounds miserable. Yeah, most of
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the people that live there sound miserable.
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Dude.
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Every time I've ever been to Houston. Fun fact, I've
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witnessed a massive police chase. But every time I've been
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to Houston, I've had almost been in the middle of
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a police chase, people flying by me. I've never seen
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such chaos as in Houston. And I'm from Detroit, Billy.
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I think it's a common denominator issue. If there's a
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release chase every time you go to Houston, stop breaking
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the law.
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Yeah, you're right, you know what, I do have poo
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in the car with me, so that's probably part of
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the reason why we're doing something.
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Yeah, you're right, never mind, Okay, fine.
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But that has to be one of the greatest qualifiers
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of all time. I'm from Detroit, dude.
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Like, if I'm telling you something chaotic, it's chaotic.
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Yeah, Billy knows.
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Oh yeah, listen.
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What's more chaotic the city of Detroit or morning radio?
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Yeah?
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I was in Detroit in the nineties when there was
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like real crackheads. These crackheads are like tame compared to
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the nineties crackheads.
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So what do you think is more chaotic Detroit or
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morning radio?
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Oh?
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God, morning radio. I'd rather kidding up at three am.
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In this business, I can survive Detroit easily.
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I barely survived this shit, isn't it kind of a
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weird sad But at the same time, it really is
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a badge of honor to say, yeh.
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Yeh oh, my god, Yeah it is you guys. You
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guys know you know this.
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This business is tough, and you get to be able
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to wake up and function. It is like survivor some days.
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I know, you cover a lot of news stories on
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your show during the week and you've got four hours
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to Phil, so you've you go through quite a bit.
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So I'm going to assume that you heard about the
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Florida man who used tacos seasonings to steal forty thousand
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dollars in Pokemon cards from Target.
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So I did see a little bit of this story.
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Poo is trying to tell me about it, but it
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was like four in the morning and I was like.
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Who are you high? What are you talking about? But
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tell you shouldn't listen story, because I should have listened
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to him.
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You should have listened to him. If Florida man's facing
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decades decades in prison after allegedly using seasoning packets to
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steal forty thousand dollars worth of Pokemon cards from Target,
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so you know the thing, you know the deal. You
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go to the self checkout, he's got the seasoning packet
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with the Pokemon cards the same size, and if someone's
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looking from a secure camera, he's scanning the seasoning. But
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he's stashing forty thousand dollars with the Pokemon cards. That's
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not the reason why he faces decades in prison. It's
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not just for that crime. It's what he did after
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he stole the cards. According to the Florida Attorney General's Office,
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thirty nine year old Keith Wallace was arrested following an
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investigation into a string of thefts at Target across the state.
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They alleged he carried out at least seventy five separate
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incidents between July twenty five and February twenty six. The
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method was simple but consistent. During each visit, he would
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load his cart with boxed Pokemon trading cards along with
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an equal number of ninety nine cent taco seasoning packets.
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At self checkout, he would scan and pay only for
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the seasoning packets, leaving the higher price merchandise effectively on
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accounting for. They believed the approach aligns with the tactic
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known as stacking. I think you get the idea. I
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don't need to describe what that is. Then, after leaving
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the store, investigators say he resold the Pokemon cards online
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through eBay, generating nearly forty thousand dollars in revenue. The
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reported loss to Target exceeds ten grand. So that's a
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pretty good profit. I mean, obviously he didn't pay for it,
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but it would have been a thirty grand. Then state
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officials emphasized the broader impact of schemes like this, saying
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organized retail theft drives up prices for consumers, and that
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is not a result we are going to tolerate. That's
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according to Florida's Attorney general. He also said that cases
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like this would be would be pursued with the maximum
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punishment allowed under the law. He's been charged with multiple counts,
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including felony, organized retail theft. That word organized is what's
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getting him in deep, deep trouble, Yeah, dealing in stolen property,
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and money laundering. If convicted on all counts, he faces
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up to ninety years in prison under Florida law. Oh
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my god, magic cards.
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You imagine going to prison for Pokemon cards?
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Sorry, Pokemon it whatever, same thing.
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Right, I mean, I know they can be worth a