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It is time to leave your warriors outside and life
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with us inside the treehouse. I'm Daniel Malley, along with
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Trey Trenholm, Raj Sharma and Jerry Caldwell. Today is right day,
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August twenty second, twenty twenty five. You have reached the
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end of your week. Hopefully not the end of your rope.
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But if you have, then we'll make your exit from
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this plane to the other just a little bit funnier.
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Could also just be really funny, as if the noose
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you've hanged yourself from the ceiling fan snaps and you
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go flinging across the room into the wall. Man, I
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can't even do that, right, Yeah, that's dark, but whatever,
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All right, here we go. We're going from dark to light?
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Am I the dark?
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Oh? You're you're gonna be in this pile? Rush? Here
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we go. Twice a month, six men gather to help
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each other work through past traumas their chosen method of
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healing cuddles. That's right. It may seem odd, but members
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of the Men's Therapeutic Cuddle Group say the practice is
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help them cope with everything from childhood abuse to the
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loss of family members when they were young. So in
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case you didn't pick up what I was throwing down.
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There's a men's cuddling group and they aim to read
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a fine masculinity and heal trauma.
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There's I mean, yeah you can. It's called the round
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Up in Dallas. Uh Rattlesnakes, I mean j R's.
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Big Men's Cuddling Group.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, there's there's a whole weekend called the tb ru
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the Texas Bear round Up.
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I was about to say they're all bears. They called
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cuddling something called hibernating.
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I don't know how. Yeah.
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A group of men in a group of men in
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Pennsylvania meet twice a month to cuddle. Members of the
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Men's Therapeutic Cuddle Group say the practice has helped them
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cope with loss and trauma. One cuddle. One cuddle is
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called the motorcycle hold. That's where one man sits with
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his back against another man's chest as if they were
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riding a motors Then there's another cuddle that they referred
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to as a puppy pile. For those that are curious
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about the puppy pile, the puppy pile is where they
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have their heads in one another's lapse, asking for time,
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asking for help.
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Asking for belly rubs.
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And this is why, this is why I hate Eagles
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fans uh.
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Pennsylvania, hold me, hold me while we chan't eat a
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g l e Yes, this.
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Is where they ca this is where they originated the
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tush push promise.
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You all started in a cuddle group now and it's spilled.
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Out onto the field after the puppy.
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This group is not brand new. This group is two
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years old and it's drawn men from various backgrounds. One
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of the men in this cuddle group is a thirty
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seven year old Mormon who works as an airport gate agent.
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The other another is a real Yes, another is a
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fifty seven year old married father of three. There's also
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a sixty two year old retiree that's pretty fantastic being
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sixty two and actually retired in this day and age.
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Good on here and for everybody to find out you're
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gay at that age.
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I'm glad you said that, Raj, because at a time
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when traditional ideas of manhood are facing scrutiny and such
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terms as toxic masculinity are becoming more widely known through
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the Me Too movement, the Men's Cuddle Group aims to
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provide new ways for men to express themselves.
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Just look at TRACE's face and you can see what's
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happening world. And he's in Vegas, where there's a lot
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of people cuddly.
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If there's any city in this country that the cuddle
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group would be welcomed with open arms, it's lads Vegas.
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I mean, did they all go to the blue Oyster bar?
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I mean oil can.
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Harry's Scott Turner says in this story, so often we're
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taught that to be an emotional stoic is the mark
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of manhood. Scott is a forty six year old interior
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designer and co founder of the group You Don't Say.
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He says, if you show any emotional weakness or vulnerability,
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that's a failure to your title of a man. But
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if we expect men to be emotionally sensitive to the
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needs of others, they first need to be able to
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build an emotional vocabulary. Part of that involves learning that
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physical touch extends beyond aggression or sex. Platonic effect can
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be a doorway to emotional closeness or, in this case,
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a men's cuddle group.
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Yeah, but riding bitch on a motorcycle with another man
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is just gay?
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Who's Harley, and who's Davidson.
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Doesn't really matter as long as you're both in leathers chaps.
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I assume you just take turns.
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I don't know who's the old lady. I just I
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do like being that this is in Pennsylvania. I do
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in my head.
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I just I envisioned the deal with this. This is
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the spot where Steelers and Eagles fans come together.
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Right in the middle of the state to watch the giants.
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Unlike professional cuddling services, which are gaining popularity in cities
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across the United States, this men's cuddle group charges no
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fees and members are not required to undergo any sort
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of training. The meetups are not open to the public.
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They the members must first be interviewed and approved. And
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in case you're curious, the meetups is actually spelled m
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E E T, not E A T.
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And what what members are being interviewed? Because that could
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be that could mean something completely different.
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There's a there's another section of this story in bold
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titled a group demonstration, and I don't know if I'm
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prepared for that.
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No one is till meeting to.
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That's more of a second meeting type of thing.
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You don't hunk away from that one.
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More of a crawling thing.
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now transition from the men's cuddle club to something a
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little more broad and perhaps a little less controversial, but
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still fun. Okay, Trey, if I remember correctly, you went
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to sleep away camp as a kid? Right? Yes, raj
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did you.
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Go to a camp?
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Yeah?
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No?
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All right, me and neither I didn't go either, Jerry.
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Did you ever go to a sleep away camp as
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a kid?
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Nope?
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All right? Would you go to a sleep away camp
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as an adult for adults?
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No, that's called a cult.
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Well let's let's wait here. There might be more to
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this than than than your cynicism. Okay, okay, Uh, this
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is a thing. Overnight camps are increasingly popular in catering
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to solo travelers who are looking for in person connection.
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This goes a little bit to Trey's new found openness
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to trying different things like doing a dating event, being
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open to online dating or speed dating. Would you Tray
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be open to the idea of going to an adult
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sleep away camp?
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Truth matter is, I actually looked into one and it
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was just over. Uh it's actually going on right now.
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It's a sober camp that they do in California. Uh,
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it's like four days and outdoor stuff like that.
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So yeah, So this is actually something that's becoming more
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and more popular, especially in the century of solitude. That's
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part of what the twenty first century has been dubbed
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by some people, because loneliness, according to some experts, isn't epic.
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Is an't epidemic. At camp, social creating chemistry is everything.
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Campers are divided by age, which range from people in
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their twenties up to their sixties, and they're divided not
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just by age but also into bunks of eight to ten.
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Each is staffed with a trained counselor who serves as
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a camp concierge and bonding facilitator, even tasked with coming
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up with a bunk cheer. During the day. The adult
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campers get to create their own schedules from a buffet
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of traditional activities including boating, archery, ropes, courses, bracelet making,
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waterfront whatever that is, ti die and tennis I'm sure pickleball,
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banks and appearance in there as well, And there are
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even some adult embellishments paint and sip and mix. Ala
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classes can also be chosen, and the standard cost eight
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hundred and eighty three dollars for two nights and three days.
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Adult sleep away camps are becoming more and more popular
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ra as you say.
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No, oh, well, I don't want to be around that
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many white people.
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I've seen a photo of one of these camps. It's
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not all white people.
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Oh. They have to have a counselor.
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And or an Indian that owns the cabins.
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You'd rather own the adult sleep away camp than attended,
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is what you're saying.
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That's correct.
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For two nights. Hell yeah, you're in.
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I think this is a fascinating thing, because it really is.
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I mean, this is something that as adults, I think
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we all can agree on. It's weird slash difficult to
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just make new friends, and doing something like this, I
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feel like you'd almost be guaranteed to get at least
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one new friend out of it.
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Well, I think there's something okay, I think there's something
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to be said for the fact that a lot of
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it isn't so much people are lonely, But I think
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there's a difference between lonely and not wanting to be alone.
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And I think especially a lot of people our age,
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have gotten to a point where and this is and
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I know this is probably my biggest problem is I
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don't necessarily want to be alone, but I'm very comfortable
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being alone. And that's one of the reasons why I'm
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trying to do this stuff, is get myself out of
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that habit, because if it keeps going, I will be
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just a hermit. Yeah, I mean as far as you know,
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give me, you know, a dog or two, and I'm
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I'm fine.
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Yeah, yeah, But eight hundred and eighty three dollars to
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make one new friend, I don't I don't like the
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return on investment.
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Well, if you don't just from a transaction, you know, standpoint,
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you have to If you're just thinking I'm gonna spend
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almost nine hundred dollars to make a new friend, then
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that's the wrong way to approach it. Instead, you're spending
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that for the experiences and for the lodging in which
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you get to share a room with seven to nine
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other people.
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Yes, I'd rather pay the Spirit Airline, you know, three
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hundred dollars a round trip flight to Pennsylvania and just
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cuddle with those guys.
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The cuddle group is free.
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It is free the charge, but you're gonna pay it.
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But as far as the adult sleep away camp, I
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think there's a reason why this is gaining in popularity. Look,
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if you have any sort of a club or a
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trip type package whatever, you don't need to win over everybody.
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You just need to win over enough people to make
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it worthwhile. And honest to God, there is no doubt
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that inside this treehouse, Trey is our biggest cynic about things.
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And there's value in that. And if Trey our biggest
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cynic is like, yeah, I'd do it, we all should
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look at ourselves and think, well, what is why are
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we being so snarky about it?
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Well, I think one of the First of all, I mean,
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you say four hundred and forty a night, Like if
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you think about going on vacation, by the time you
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pay for a hotel meals everything else, You're not far
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from that as far as it's really cost, especially.
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If you're trying to rent something on Airbnb, because it
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says one hundred and forty nine per night, but when
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you get the bill it for the weekend, it still
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ends up being a thousand dollars because of all the fees.
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Well, and one of the things I think is, and