Nov. 9, 2023

Football #10: The Dallas Cowboys, Why?

Football #10: The Dallas Cowboys, Why?

We re-cap the Cowboys loss to the Eagles, hate on Eagles fans, and look ahead to a win over the Giants...?

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We re-cap the Cowboys loss to the Eagles, hate on Eagles fans, and look ahead to a win over the Giants...?

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Welcome inside the Treehouse Football Podcast,
episode number ten. We have reached double

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digits football podcast. They haven't stopped
us yet, much like the Cobbos defense.

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Maybe maybe I should rephrase that to
make more sense. They haven't stopped

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us yet, much like the Eagles
push push. But here we are Treehouse

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Football Podcast number ten. Let's just
let's just jump right into the misery.

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Yeah, And the misery is,
of course, that I didn't I didn't

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have the opportunity to have an anxiety
freak out about being one person inside the

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throngs of Rangers fans in Arlington.
What was it? I think Arlington Fire

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Department estimated five hundred to seven hundred
thousand people along that for aid route in

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that area. My god, Oh, some of the pictures I don't like.

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There was one picture of a building
and it had to have been a

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i'm gonna guess like a six story
parking garage, and it was full of

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people, like every floor. And
just see what happens when you meet parking

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free. That's what I'm saying.
I have reached the age and where I

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live now currently that if I see
a sign that says free parking, I

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am fully erect I'm I'm I'm glad
you said that because I'm on. Yeah.

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That's my first question when somebody invites
me anywhere. My first question is

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not who's coming, not you know, do I need to bring anything?

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My first question what's parking look like? And I will do this by My

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buddy likes to watch the Cowboys game
over at Sidecar Social, and that place

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is a disaster when it comes to
parking because there's an there's a movie theater,

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and then there's all the shops,
and there's all the bars and all

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that stuff. I will give it
two laps, I tell I tell him

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every time. I was like,
i will go twice. This is my

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my effort. I'll driver on that
park and then I'm going home. And

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he doesn't believe. Every single time, he doesn't believe me. He's like,

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there's parking space. I'm like,
I'm on my second lap. Unless

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you're standing in that parking space.
I don't believe. I've made him do

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that before. I'm like, go
stand in it and then I'll come.

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But I will go across the street
to the Boozy Bird, the Chicken Wing

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place, because it's a it's there's
a dollar tree, it's plenty of park

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What if what if the place has
valet? Will you val a? Absolutely

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not? Are you out of your
mind? Is that is that level of

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frugal hereditary in the in your family? I'll spend you know me, I

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spend money. I'm not but are
you You won't? You're just picky about

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it. You mean to you gonna
charge me to park my own car?

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What if it's free for free valet, complimentary valet that Lava canteina does that,

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and I will do that, and
I will tip very well. I'm

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like, you know what, here's
what you what I would pay in l

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A to valet the car. I'll
give you that cash for for doing it

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for free. But if there's no
parking, I'm going home. It's funny

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because and I asked that because valet
is one of those funny things some people

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just on principle hate being. If
they feel like they're forced to valet,

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they won't do it. Yeah,
correct, Yes, I mean like I'm

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I'm yeah, I mean this is
it's it's the valet is a young thing.

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It's for young kids now because they're
lazy. I don't mind the walk

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like i've I've I've debated coming to
your bar, but I know where it's

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at, and I'm like, I, no, I don't know how the

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parking situation is. Oh, you
know how the parking situation is in Uptown.

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It's terrible. I'm not and that's
why I don't go. I've debated.

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I'm like, you know what,
I should stop by the Standard Port

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and say what's up to train?
And I'm like, uh, park and

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if you ever do, I now
I now know a secret place, so

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I can tell you where the park. Oh both, ray, you could

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make some serious money off that secret
place. Yeah, because like the last

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time Tara and I came to see
you at Standard Poor for brunch, there's

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that parking lot behind the building,
and and I think it costs like twenty

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twenty five dollars to park there.
Twenty five dollars to park there and out

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of it. Well, it's not
so. The lot was purchased by a

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tow company. Okay, of course, of course it was. So do

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they give you nuggets of gold when
you get out of your car for twenty

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five dollars? Do they give you
a nugget of gold? And maybe maybe

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when you don't pay it and they
tow your car and then they charge you

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three hundred to get it out.
That is it's it's the ultimate. I

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mean you have to tip your hat
to them because it's brilliant business wise.

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Oh it is. Again, it's
it's sort of akin to a musician owning

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all the publishing rights to their music. I would like you want to own

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everything about your business from the top
down. Like if if you start any

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sort of a I don't know any
any sort of a food business, Let's

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say it's not enough to just make
the food and distribute it. You should

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also then own the trucks that deliver
it. So basically own every single segment

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of the supply chain or whatever,
all through the business. And I also

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feel like part like there was so
many occupations in the world that were underserved

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when we were all in school on
career day, like there was no one

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there. There was not car wash
operator owner there, which makes tons of

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money. There wasn't parking lot owner, and those are huge, huge money

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makers that I would have been really
interested in knowing about. That's you know,

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I'm in a schooler. That just
means you didn't go to school with

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any Persians. So that's what ippened. That's all it was, and nobody,

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nobody like you. You're not gonna
ask like a second grader, like,

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hey, so what do you want
to do when you grow up?

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It's like, I want to own
a parking garage, Like nobody wants that.

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Nobody's dream is to do that.
Well, that's why it's all about.

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It's all about the messaging. So
what you do is if you're the

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parking garage owner, parking lot or
a TOE operating company, what you do

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is you show up with your logo
stuff, right because you got to promote

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a company. But as far as
the pitch goes, you show your vacation

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photos. You hands by my microphone
boom. This was me in Tahiti for

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a month and a half, all
because I charged twenty five dollars and own

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the lot behind Standard Poor and I
also own the TOE operating company. So

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you show the kids what's possible by
owning the parking lot in the TOE company,

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and then they'll be on board.
So you paid you. I paid

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twenty five dollars to park. No, raj I did not pay twenty five

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dollars to park. I paid twenty
five dollars to know exactly where my car

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was in uptown, after I'd had
two crafts of mimosas and a spicy bloody

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money well spent. It was at
that point plus Tray gave us some gave

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us some carb heavy cinnamon rolls.
Oh okay, So there was no way

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I was going to be able to
walk a mile after that to fight.

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Okay. I was almost disappointed in
you, but that works out. Speaking

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of disappointment, Yes, Cowboys Eagles
Game of Inches horror officiating. Dak doesn't

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know between the inbounds pylon the often
in the end at another county pylon.

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He doesn't know how big or small
his feet are, our tight ends,

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don't know at what depth to run
an out route. The officials don't seem

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to understand Dak when he says seventy
one is an eligible receiver. The officials

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don't like to call holding penalties until
three and a half quarters in, but

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they are fine to give the Cowboys
fifty three yards forward but then also take

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them back thirty forty yards. It
was kind of a dumb game if you're

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a Cowboys fan. Yeah, that
was. I was texting my brother,

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texting Neil throughout the whole thing,
and he he brought up the same point

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you just did. He goes,
are they going to call a holding penalty

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at any point in this game?
And I was like, I don't know

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how they don't see this, and
it's blatant, and I've always wondered this,

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like I don't think refs should have
that kind of power. I think

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they should, right, I think
they should. There should be some other

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like it should go to the booth
like it should. If you're gonna review

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plays, I think you should review. I think there should be somebody in

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the booth that sees every play.
And so you would prefer the the on

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field officials or official whatever basically just
be the clockman in all penalties and things

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are booth stuff. Yes, that
would be ideal because there I mean,

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this was just I mean there was
I counted six before the third quarter,

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six holding penalties that weren't called.
But again, I mean it was bad.

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It was just it was just dumb
throughout the whole thing. Just watching

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the rafts and watch and again going
back to just the Cowboys in general,

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just watching them kind of acquiesced to
what was just what was happening, going,

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Okay, if it's gonna be dumb, we're gonna play dumb uh And

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that's what they did. And that's
why I posted the next day, never

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go Full Cowboy. That made me
laugh out loud. That was that was

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so great, Never Go Full Cowboy. What I don't understand is, like

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I specifically, there was one play, you know, cowboys try to do

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a quarterback sneak. I'm like,
are they afraid of Dak's ass? Why

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can't they push it? Why can't
they? You know, it's like you

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watched, well, his his asses. Apparently his ass is apparently more fragile

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than Jalen Hurts's. And I will
say this, and this is my setting

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for watching the game was almost terrible
because we're now living on Saint John.

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They were only like two bars showing
the game with the sound, and we

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were at one of them, and
so was about thirty Eagles fans. Oh,

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to their credit, there was one
pair of Eagles fans that we sat

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next to the entire game, and
I swear to god, I'm not making

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any of this up. They were
nice. The rest of them were not.

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They were all terrible stereotypical Eagles fans. But the couple we were next

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to, they were actually nice.
Now that being said it was a dumb

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dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb
dumb game. Yeah it was. Yeah,

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it was just I didn't I haven't
seen a game officiated like that before.

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Like, at least I know there's
a bias, right, I get

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it. There's a whole town bias
and whatever. It's their hometown refs,

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whatever you want to say, but
the hometown refs their NFL refs. Yeah,

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I know, But still there is
a bias when it's a home game.

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I get it, right, they're
a little more favorable, a little

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more favorable. I understand that.
But when it's just blatant, like what

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do you do? Like if if
like again, like I was sitting next

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to I was sitting across from a
lady who showed up just so hammered.

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She was for that day. She
was my spirit animal, like she showed

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up just like I just like when
you when you walk into a bar and

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as a bartender, when when the
first thing they order is a water,

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I'm like, yeah, they're they're
already, They're already there, buddy,

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they got their part. Was she
a Chiefs fan that had started at like,

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you know, nine o'clock in the
morning. No, I had a

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couple of those that no. This
this was i mean full blue and white.

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And she walked in and the first
thing I thought, I'm like,

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I'm just waiting on my way and
the first thing I see her and I

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was like, Oh, somebody's emmated
already. And then she said I was

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like a water. I was like, okay, that's what happens when when

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your pregame takes on too much of
an in game mentality. Yeah, and

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uh, and she was called she
was like the hold. I was like,

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she can see it. If she
can see holding metal, He's like,

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she's the reason that Crown Royal has
those commercials where the official comes in,

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blows the whistle and says, water
time out. It's because of that

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lady. Yeah, she was.
She she water timed out for for the

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first Uh. I think the first, first and second quarter. Maybe maybe

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were able to watch a bunch of
the games. I think you probably had

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to work. I was working,
so I got to see parts of it.

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I definitely saw some of the There
was one play that where Dak was

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running around and and uh, I'm
sorry when hearts was running around and like

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You're like, I'm going, holy
crap, that that not a hole that's

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a tackle, and but there there
were that goes both ways. And I

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do understand that. It's easy when
you know you're watching it on TV and

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angles and everything else. But you're
on the field, it's moving incredibly fast.

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But the rest did see seem rather
incompetent, but I'm not not knowing

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where the sideline is is also pretty
incompetent, exactly. So that's so that's

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where as a player, if you're
having to work against the adversity that is

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NFL officiating, then you need to
make sure you're doing everything you can to

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not well shoot yourself in the foot. Uh. Basically it's like, help

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you help yourself? Yeah, in
the face of poor officiating or things that

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are beyond your control. One thing
DA could control was his right foot,

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but apparently he didn't bother to do
that. I don't know if he needs

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glasses. I don't know if he
is color blind and can't see white versus

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green in and out of bounds.
But I I during that play, I'm

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like, how, how, how, how how do you mess that up

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that madly? And then the look
of disappointment when he saw the replay.

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Yeah, the look of disappointment on
his face. Buddy when they when they

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called touchdown, he should have been
like, shager one right off the field

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quick before they he was like,
yeah, that was it. It's like,

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dude, you don't know where your
feet are in bounds. That's troubling

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me as a forty million dollars a
year quarterback. Yeah, that's again,

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it was like a dumb game.
When I saw I saw it, I

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was like, I mean, I'm
sitting there's one guy and don't be this

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guy. He's like a bit je
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touchdown. I'm like, I saw
what you saw already saw it? What

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do you what are you talking about? Like? Uh? The look when

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he's like he looks up at the
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how did you you're there? Yeah? You should be able to see

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down to your own foot. You
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trying to know where your own foot
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you know, and and again I
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like the our tight end, the
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but the ball didn't cross the plane. I didn't, So I'm glad

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you brought this up, and then
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end touchdown non touchdown for the Cowboys. I want to bring up that I

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forgot to mention with Trey when Trey
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right before they right before they ran
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and I even turned to the nice
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I don't know why they're doing this. He sucks at quarterback sneaks.

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I've never I don't know if I've
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He's like, yeah, that was
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that's not something that should be in
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more because he doesn't seem very good
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does lumber a bit. He's one
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leans, kind of falls, but
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back to the knee thing with a
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and I think it's very very accurate. That is, if that play

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happened on the sideline, that's a
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possession. He had one knee in
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throughout the entirety of the catch,
which goes into out of bounds territory right

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right on the goal line. Though
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is when his knee hits, which
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a touchdown. Yes, but let's
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catches the ball with the ball breaking
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knee is down at first blush,
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as he continues to the ground,
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ball, it's an incomplete pass.
Right. So this is one of those

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times where if you play the game
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where you've got to look at that
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we kind of need to address that
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limbo here that that caused a major
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season. Yes. Uh, and
that was my I'm glad again, I'm

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glad you're saying the same thing.
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this was if we move him up
and he's going out of bounds. That's

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he's catch a catch. But right
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Like, I don't understand how that
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again it went back to the booths
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it is on in the book,
it was a correct call ultimately that it

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was not a touchdown, even though
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And yeah, I don't I'm gonna
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what contrarian. I'm gonna replay back. I'm gonna replay that for you.

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I want you to hear the first
Yeah, the first time. I'm

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like, yeah, you are.
It's it's it's it's his favorite word.

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If anybody missed out on the bleep
last week, that's his favorite. Order

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backs and receivers, they know that
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That is the ultimate when it comes
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been the ball has to cross the
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that way. Now you want to
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yeah, if it's out of bounds, if he has two feet in yeah,

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But also, Dan, I did
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has control crosses the plane. Once
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hits the ground and the ball comes
loose, technically no, it's actually would

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still be a touchdown because the ground
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he had control as it was crossing
the plane. But see that therein lies

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the gray area. Because what you're
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of those situations where I think two
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even though they're kind of opposed.
Take the same play like you were just

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describing, happening at the front edge
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of the end zone, right,
So he catches the ball two feet inbounds

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in the back of the end zone
and then falls and as he falls that

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ball pops out. He's not getting
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of the catch. So that's why
I'm saying is there needs to be Even

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though this type of play happens very
rarely, it happened in this game,

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so they need to take a look
at it. There shouldn't be a double

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standard based on where you are on
the field. It's like it's either a

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catch or it's not right, and
you need to you need to just tweak

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the rule just a little bit to
where it makes sense. Yeah, at

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the end of the day, the
NFL could just go double middle fingers and

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say till you're tied, end to
run a half yard deeper rounte like you

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should have in the first one.
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think, you know, I don't
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I was like, I'm giving them. I had a good feeling I

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had that they were playing well,
and I think they had some momentum going

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in when I watched the first like
the first was it was three and out

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very quickly, and I didn't I
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like that confidence that they walk in
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kind of tell walking into a game
like Okay, they're walking in with a

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different kind of swag. And I
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immediately. I was like, when
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series, when it was three and
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two minutes, it was three and
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they just walked and they just kind
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was more like almost like a well, a shucks, Yep, that's exactly

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what. And that's the That's the
thing that always bugged me about Tony Romo

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was the aw shucks mentality, like, oh, well, dude again,

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we'll see you in the second and
let me put my slip ones on.

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Uh, and I'm like, where's
the like Aikman had that killer Like you

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would see Akman go over to his
players and yell and scream like we get

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into this game and been Aikman in
the first series, he'd been to the

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sideline and he would have been upset. Yeah, and then I haven't seen

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that from any quarterback that we've had
since him Tom Brady. Yeah, but

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we we didn't have Tom Brady.
Just focusing on on Drew Henson's lack of

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motivation. Quincy Carter went a big
ass tour. Hey, here's but let

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me let me just say that was
a weird That was a weird thing to

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say. Let me just say this
about Quincy Carter. Uh, he's a

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great tipper or he was. You're
going to say that back when he back,

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when we defend Quincy Carter till the
day he dies, because he because

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he helped keep Raj's nightclub and deep
him alive for years. Oh my god.

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Yes. And the day before a
game, I'm like, I've told

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you guys this before I'd watched,
like the third interception, I'm like,

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he's hummed over, Like I know, I know what time he got in

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his car. Yeah, there's no
people talk about having receipts on things.

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Roger literally had them. I did. And uh. My favorite part of

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this story is he was interviewed years
later and they called me. It was

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an Abilene I think it was where
he was living. There was the newspaper,

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there was interviewing him. They're like, hey, he frequently did your

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bar quite often. How was he
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he was delightful, Like he was
wonderful, he was sweet, and he

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tipped one hundred percent. So if
the bill is a great customer, yes,

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if the bill was three thousand dollars, he tipped three thousand dollars,

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that's how That's how it was.
And when they went back to him to

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confirm this, he had no recollection
of ever being in my club. I

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was like, that was honestly,
that's a a pr professional told him to

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say that Yeah. I was like, that's the or or So did vodka,

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So that was a company. Was
was great. Yeah, but I

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mean I don't see that, Like, we haven't had that quarterback. We

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haven't had like your Tom Brady.
You haven't had your guy that goes over

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and goes, hey, man,
what what are we doing? Like we're

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getting paid a lot of money,
Let's step this up. And nobody seems

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to do that. And Dak is
again you see that kind of Romo esque

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Oh darn well, we'll get him
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There's not that killer instinct. I
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I don't think he has it.
Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe it's like

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I know who could I know who
could instill that in him? Who's that

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someone that we know very very close
to us who labels himself as a contrarian,

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which is what the Cowboys need and
their starting quarterback. They need a

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little bit of a little bit of
contrarian that would really get them over the

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You need a big, big,
big old contrarian. That's what they needed.

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Yeah, this is while the punters
over there going like I got a

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new catchphrase. You're listening to the
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on Air dot com. Welcome back
Inside the Treehouse Football Podcast, episode number

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ten, where we lament the Cowboys
lost to the Eagles twenty eight to twenty

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three, and part of what's always
going to be frustrating as a Cowboys fan

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despite losing and disappointment in general,
are Eagles fans and how truly awful they

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can be. And what is frightening
about it is they know it, and

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honestly, they they don't just embrace
it, they hump it. They don't

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only own it, but they parade
it, and they love it. They

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cherish it. They call it George. And I'm going to give you a

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brief story here which embodies Eagles fandom, but one of the least egregious ways.

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Okay, because Philly fans in general, whether it's you know, Philadelphia

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in general, like if it's Phillies
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as much to be you know,
you know, loud about lately flyers,

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and obviously the Eagles as a fan
base, every other fan base agrees that

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they're pretty much terrible and then they
go and prove you correct. So here's

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a small example of that in real
life that happened before the Eagles Cowboys game

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on Sunday. Okay, you ready. So we are newly relocated, my

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wife and I to Saint John and
Saint John on the West End, which

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is cruise base. It's very small
to where the cruise ships come in.

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There's lots of bars and restaurants,
lots of activity. It's where the nightlife

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is. It's also where there's the
bars and go watch the games. So

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Tara is running a quick errand before
the game before meeting me back at the

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bar to watch the game, and
while she runs across the park, she

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is then verbally accosted by Eagles fans
because all she is doing is walking across

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the park wearing a Cowboys star T
shirt and the throng of Eagles fans are

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walking the opposite direction. And what
do they start doing? They start booing

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her simply because of her T shirt. And she didn't even realize why.

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At first. She's like, why
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then she sees them looking at her
and like boo, And I guess they

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could see the look on her face
like why are you booing? Is something

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wrong with you? You're having a
stroke And they're like, oh, galboys,

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and then they're pulling on their ego
shoots boo you. And then they

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asked her where the beach bar was
because they couldn't find it. Hilarious,

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I'm gonna say that again. H
they're on an island. Yeah, the

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island is eight miles across, and
they had to act the beach bar is

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located. Yes, okay, well
and then boo the person giving them directions.

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So that's what they did. They
bowed her and then like, hey,

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do you know where beach bar is? And then she's like, yeah,

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I'll tell you because Tara, Tara
is wonderful at maintaining the high ground.

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She's like she gave them directions to
where the beach bar was. Ironically

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enough, it was on the beach
and I would have I would have been

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like, way, they bowed her
again, yes, so then I would

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have been like, hey, it's
on Saint Martin. That's why you don't

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have to take the ferry. Uh. And that's where the beach bar is.

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That's where everybody's going to watch the
game. I would have given them

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the Yeah. I mean it's the
same thing. It's the Philly the guy.

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We're losing that I think there was
thirty four seconds left, look a

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bit of one hundred dollars, Like
what stop? Like we lost? I

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get it? Do you want me
to say it? I understand it.

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A one hundred dollars Cowboys loose.
Yeah, I'm I'm not an idiot.

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My dear friend, uh and wonderful
comedian Don Marrero who's from Philadelphia, has

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been on stage and said this.
He gets to do this really cool thing

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that some comics get to do.
They go to the training camps and then

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they perform for the team. It's
a really great gig. It's really good

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money. And he said this on
stage. He said, I've I've performed

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many times for my hometown, the
Philadelphia Eagles, and I've performed for the

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Dallas Cowboys. And he gets booed
all the time, and he goes,

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the nicest fans in the world are
Dallas Cowboys fans, and the worst fans

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in the world are Philadelphia Eagles.
And he's from Philly. Like do they

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cheer it? Yeah? Yeah,
They're like, yeah we are. I'm

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like, yes, you threw you
threw snowballs at Santa like like like,

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I mean they had the year that
Jimmy Johnson was running off the field and

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they were throwing snowballs. They found
batteries inside the snowballs, like I mean,

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what are you doing? Like still
vet? Yeah, yeah, hell

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if people don't remember bounty Gate,
oh yeah, yeah, there was actually

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a really good recap. I'm not
sure if it was Fox that put it

400
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:25.920
out or if I just saw it
online or maybe a little bit of both.

401
00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:30.599
That sort of set the stage for
that rivalry, and they showed some

402
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:33.960
older clips of Eagles cowboys and stuff. But if we're being honest, it

403
00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:38.400
really picked up steam with the Buddy
Ryan era as a head coach of the

404
00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:42.039
Eagles. That's that's when it took
on a really violent thing, and that's

405
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:45.599
where we got bounty Gate, like
Trey saying, yeah, I mean I

406
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:49.200
remember, I mean, the quintessential
moment of Eagles fans and there are many,

407
00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:53.200
but in my mind, it always
has been when Michael Irvan is laying

408
00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:59.119
there on the field, you know, almost paralyzed, and they're or maybe

409
00:29:59.160 --> 00:30:03.440
dead, yeah you know, and
they're booing. I mean, they're just

410
00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:06.720
no they were cheering. Oh that's
what I'm sorry. Yes, you're right,

411
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:10.799
yeah, but you know, yeah
they were happy that. Yeah he

412
00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:14.839
was hurt. I mean, and
you can go back just that. Phillies,

413
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:18.680
Arizona Diamondbacks. You know, Baseball
series, when the Diamondbacks won at

414
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:22.079
Philly. You know when the Rangers
won, they were gracious, they clapped

415
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:26.599
everything else. Philly fans, of
course, they stay around just to boo.

416
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:30.559
Yeah. Well, I mean it's
Philadelphia. I mean, I don't

417
00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:33.720
know if have you ever been,
No, and and everything we've said is

418
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:40.359
why because look, I mean,
let me pose a let me pose a

419
00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:44.119
hypothetical for you in Raj, I'm
not sure how much you can relate to

420
00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:45.640
this, because I'm sure you've been
in New York many times as a comedian,

421
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:48.359
and you're a Yankees fan. So
you, Raj, can go to

422
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:52.240
Yankee Stadium and wear your team stuff
because you're a Yankees fan. If Trey

423
00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:56.680
and I were to go to Yankee
Stadium wearing Ranger stuff, I wouldn't necessarily

424
00:30:56.720 --> 00:30:59.839
feel unsafe. I'm probably gonna get
some things yelled at me, but it's

425
00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:02.960
not like I'm walking in there wearing
a Red Sox jersey. So my question

426
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:07.920
to you is this, if you
had to, would you rather walk into

427
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:11.279
Yankee Stadium wearing a Red Sox jersey
or vice versa, walk into Finnway wearing

428
00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:22.359
a Yankees jersey? Or would you
be forced to walk into Lincoln Financial where

429
00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:26.119
the Eagles play, wearing a Cowboys
jersey? Oh? I take I take

430
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:33.599
the Yankees at Fenway. Yeah,
I would absolutely. I would rather be

431
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:37.319
on one side of the Yankees Red
Sox thing. Then I would rather be

432
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:41.640
the Cowboys fan wearing a Cowboys jersey
where the Eagles play. I went to

433
00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:45.519
the There was a series of years
ago when it was the Yankees came to

434
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:48.400
town. I think there was like
two games. I think there was two

435
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:52.519
games in New York and then two
games in UH at the Old Ballpark,

436
00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:56.599
and I was I had my Yankees
hat on. And the only thing that

437
00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:00.759
when I sat down amongst all all
of my friends who are all Rangers fans,

438
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:06.480
and me with the Yankees hat.
The only thing is every time the

439
00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:09.640
Rangers did anything of anywhere, like
if they you know, just a base

440
00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:14.359
hit or an at whatever it was, somebody would scream like he's got to

441
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:19.480
buy the beers. Like that's the
only thing. And then I remember I

442
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:22.000
went, I bought a round of
beers and I sat down. And this

443
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:25.240
is back when Cecil Fielder was still
playing for the kay until ages ago.

444
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:30.599
So he comes up to bat and
I just put my hand up because I

445
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:32.400
knew it just the way he walked
in and it was just a walk off

446
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:36.240
home run. And I just turned
around and go, who's buying the beers?

447
00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:38.799
And somebody actually bought me a beer? And uh, that's actually a

448
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:43.799
sweet story. Yeah, that was
That was the most accosting of that.

449
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:46.359
I got worrying a yet. That
is my idea of fandom. It's yeah,

450
00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:51.160
it's a little bit of competitiveness,
but realizing you're not a player and

451
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:54.039
you're not going to actually get to
hold the trophy. Typically you're not getting

452
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:58.720
a game check, you didn't contribute
significantly to the wind. Yeah, but

453
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:01.960
you can have a little light gesting, you know, between fans. Ultimately

454
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:05.640
it's classy. Yeah, it was
not. It was fun. It was

455
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:08.160
it was It was any time the
Yankees would come up with like are you

456
00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:10.519
ready? Was gonna struck him out? I'm like, and they would yell

457
00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:14.680
that at me, like that was
it. It wasn't like anything violent or

458
00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:20.839
anything stuff that was typically in good
natured fun as opposed to outright you know,

459
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:24.359
bullying and or assault. Yeah,
exactly, So I mean like and

460
00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:28.400
again, like again, like you're
saying like I love that. Like when

461
00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:31.000
I'm sitting at a sitting at a
bar or whatever watching a game, Like,

462
00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:32.960
what the hell does he think he's
doing? I'm like, he's being

463
00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:38.079
an athlete. I don't know what
what are you doing? We're eating the

464
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:43.640
athlete, Like we're eating wings and
drinking booze. What do you what part

465
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:46.680
of this game? Or you contributed
to eating wings, drinking booze and demanding

466
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:59.200
excellence? That needs that needs to
be our tree house football shirts, wings,

467
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:07.480
drinking booze, demanding influence the Cowboys
right infringement star, Yeah, what's

468
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:12.920
it like? What's it like you
Trey being a being a highly esteemed contrarian

469
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:19.239
when you encounter Eagles fans. I
try to just avoid Eagles fans at all.

470
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.880
That should tell you everything you need
to know. That's the Treehouse muscle

471
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:27.360
right there, And I go listen, there are the two girls and they

472
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:31.639
were regulars at my old place,
and love them just sweetheart. Twenty something

473
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:37.320
huge Cowboys fans. They go every
year they take a trip to follow an

474
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:43.760
Await game. They've been to Kansas
City. Now, okay, they literally

475
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:47.639
just just big fans, gotcha.
Like they're going to be at the every

476
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:52.679
game, you know, watching it
in They're just huge fans. And so

477
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:54.440
a couple of years ago that I'm
like, where you're going to go this

478
00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:59.679
year? You know, Philly I
go. They're like, what I go?

479
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:04.920
You don't understand. It's different,
like they they they you, it

480
00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:07.760
doesn't matter that you're too you know, you know, sweet girls, you're

481
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:12.159
gonna be shocked at the way what
happens. They're like, no, it's

482
00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:15.000
that's just rumor. It's that they
came back shell shocked. They're like,

483
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:17.800
I would almost think that that might
have been worse for them, because I

484
00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:22.840
feel Phillies fans and sharks are similar
in that they can both smell blood in

485
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:27.599
the water. And I think sending
two naive young women to watch a Eagles

486
00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:30.599
game wearing Cowboys stuff, I feel
like that's that's just like the Eagles fans

487
00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:36.440
kind of like it's gonna be easy. Oh yeah, absolutely, just like

488
00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:45.239
throwing just a baby in the middle
of the Lions and the Eagles fans going,

489
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:52.920
yet you did baby. So now
all that being said, the Eagles

490
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:54.280
did win, so they do get
you know, bragging rights for the next

491
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:58.639
five weeks because that's the next time
the Cowboys match up against the Eagles.

492
00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:02.679
This week, though, Cowboys go
up against the Giants at home. The

493
00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:12.239
Giants that not only lost against the
new head coach Raiders, but also they

494
00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:15.039
find themselves with two whole wins and
they got to go to Arlington and and

495
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:20.280
play the Cowboys that are itching for
a conference win after the Eagles lost,

496
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:23.679
and they have their quarterback has gone
with an achilles tear, right, Daniel

497
00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:29.519
Jones is so I imagine that.
Imagine that Achilles tear was one of those

498
00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:31.840
that when the head trainer turned around, he grabbed the shears and finished the

499
00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:36.960
job. You don't think he's gonna
be like Aaron Rodgers and go I'll be

500
00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:39.360
back in a couple of weeks.
I think he's gonna say, like,

501
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:42.960
you know, I just got a
huge contract, I'll be back in a

502
00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:47.599
couple of years. And it's isn't
that the same? They both playing the

503
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:51.480
metal lends right, isn't the same
field? Isn't it? The turf is

504
00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:57.360
the question I think Aaron Rodgers brought
it up is that turf is dangerous and

505
00:36:57.480 --> 00:37:00.679
turf Monster is real, and it
keeps getting New York football. Yeah,

506
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:02.599
I mean got Aaron Rodgers and now
it's got Daniel Jones, and I just

507
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:07.960
think when you have that much money
invested in those players, you change the

508
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:13.239
turf. Like, I don't know
what the deals unless they're the only thing

509
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:15.880
is they're actually scared of finding Jimmy
Hoffa. I don't know what it would

510
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:21.800
be. We're not feeling that off, but yeah, I mean this is

511
00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:25.599
I mean, they couldn't get an
easier win. They don't have their their

512
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:30.800
quarterback, they don't have their Their
team is terrible. Trey, what's the

513
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:36.559
line going into Cowboys and Giants?
I don't know why you have to look

514
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:38.599
these up? We know you you
you bet. I think it's because he

515
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:40.960
wants to look like he has to
look them up, even though we all

516
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:44.719
know he knows them, not only
off the top of his head, but

517
00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:46.239
deep in his heart he knows.
He just doesn't want to appear to be

518
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:52.400
a degenerate. We know, like
when we're doing this show, like people

519
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:58.760
aren't dropping off money, like like
like wepaking of that Trey. Where's my

520
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:02.119
money? So I actually took the
Eagles minus three, so obviously they won.

521
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:06.559
I need my bag of money.
Even though I'm a Cowboys fan,

522
00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:09.079
I'm when it comes to financial decisions, I will bet against my team against

523
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:13.599
Yes, you were here for it. Yeah I didn't know. You actually

524
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:15.199
put money on it. I said
it on the show. It makes it

525
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:21.039
real. Trade, Where's my money? The line is sixteen Cowboys minus sixteen

526
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:24.039
and a half and the over under
is thirty eight and a half. So

527
00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:28.719
basically what Vegas is saying is it's
going to be a blowout. Yeah,

528
00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:37.840
it should be a Cowboys blowout and
doubtful that the Giants can score. It's

529
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:40.760
a question, it really is.
It really is amazing that people even bother

530
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:45.159
to do sports shows like this,
because once Vegas puts numbers out like that,

531
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:46.199
you're like, well, that says
everything that needs to be said right

532
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:52.400
there. Yeah, and since they
run everything, that's how see and to

533
00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:57.320
prove my point, Vegas said,
this is what it was. You bet

534
00:38:57.719 --> 00:39:01.159
against the team and you won.
Yeah. I won. So I'm gonna

535
00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:05.480
do it again this week. So
I'm gonna continue my streak of betting against

536
00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:08.519
the Cowboys and trying to win money, because why should the Joneses be the

537
00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:14.599
only Cowboys fans making money off this
thing. So that's the bandwagon I'm going

538
00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:16.639
to jump on, and that is
betting against the Cowboys until they prove me

539
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:22.119
wrong, because I will be eating
chicken wings, drinking beer, and demanding

540
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:28.199
excellence. So I will take the
under. Oh, I'll take the under

541
00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:30.440
because I think that thirty eight and
a half they're begging you to take the

542
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:34.960
over, so I think it'll be
under. It'll still be probably Cowboys,

543
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:37.880
you know, twenty eight to three
or something, but that's the under,

544
00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:45.519
so it'll still be a blow up. It'll go under, and that the

545
00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:49.679
points line is real tempting to take
the over. So I'm gonna take the

546
00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:52.920
under. I'm gonna say the Cowboys
win convincingly but kind of stink at the

547
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:54.639
same time, because that's what the
Cowboys do. So I'll take the under

548
00:39:54.679 --> 00:39:59.199
and I'll take the Giants on the
points. But again, you said the

549
00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:02.480
last time that you you were taking
the points, but you're not saying how

550
00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:06.679
much money you're putting on. You're
asking for a bag of money, but

551
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:09.480
you never established how much you were
actually betting. I guess I never really

552
00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:15.760
truly told you my strategy, Raj, And that is to verbally say the

553
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:22.239
bet, but then physically want a
bag of money, having laid out any

554
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:30.000
actual cash while it afforded me any
windfalls of cash. At least, I'm

555
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:31.760
not in the red see. And
this is why you got to do a

556
00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:37.199
twenty three and meters because I'm positive
you're part Indian, because that's that's just

557
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:40.039
how we. I did do an
ancestry DNA. And I'm sorry, sorry,

558
00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:45.039
Raj, it's any standard white guy
stuff. Okay, you got no

559
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:52.400
like no South Asian because you met
like what well, you know what you

560
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:55.159
know, when I'm around you long
enough, it just kind of runs off.

561
00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:00.760
You're just like, I'm not putting
any money up, want the profit.

562
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:05.159
That's right, I do. That's
that's the most Indian as it gets.

563
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:07.280
That's they call it. They call
it the American way. I don't

564
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:15.960
know why, because like most things
American, we stole it. Yeah,

565
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:21.960
this land is now ours, Drey, Where's where's where's your pretend money going

566
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:28.800
or real money going? This week? Ah? God, I hate that

567
00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:36.800
beat. I I I say,
bet on how you bet the opposite of

568
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:39.039
what you think Vegas wants you to
do. What I would hope is to

569
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:42.800
sit on it. If the line
goes to seventeen, I'd take the points

570
00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:49.599
and uh more than anything else thinking
that. And it happens in the NFL

571
00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:52.079
all the time of the trash time
touchdown of like, you know, the

572
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:57.079
Cowboys can be up, you know, twenty eight to three or whatever,

573
00:41:57.119 --> 00:42:00.159
and then next thing you know,
they come back and you know, the

574
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:04.840
Giants score ten points that are useless. But I think Cowboys feel like giving

575
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:10.519
Deuce Vaughan a rushing touchdown. Roger, what about you? Are you?

576
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:15.320
Are you? Are you? I'm
with you, man. I would take

577
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:19.760
the under because I think they're I
think they're they're gonna be delightfully terrible.

578
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:24.199
I think I think they're gonna be
one of those it's gonna be a great

579
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:29.679
game. But then at some point
you're gonna go why, Like just like

580
00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:32.000
every game, you just go why, why did you do that? I

581
00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:37.079
feel like we're on a streak of
creating shirts. We have hotter than bear

582
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:40.280
spray. Yes, we now have
our first Cowboys shirt, which is eating

583
00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:46.519
wings, drinking beer, demanding excellence. That is a third shirt also Cowboys

584
00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:52.039
related. It can say the Dallas
Cowboys have the blue star and underneath it.

585
00:42:52.719 --> 00:43:01.079
Why why why it has to be
like one of those things that you

586
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:05.840
can push them at talks like you
can push the star and it's just your

587
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:19.039
voice going fine bye. Now I
want my bags of money. All right.

588
00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:21.559
I need to get on the phone
with Hayden from Spoke custom We need

589
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:28.360
a shirt that talks yeah on this
record. The shirt that can say press

590
00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:36.559
my star. I'll put your picture
on there and just go press it.

591
00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:39.199
Money and marketing. Hell ya,
thanks for hanging out. What's in the

592
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:47.000
Treehouse Football Podcast number ten? Next
up tomorrow is the Treehouse Friday episode Birthdays,

593
00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:52.199
Crazy News, all sorts of fun
and possibly a special appearance by Evert

594
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:55.800
Newton Rock and Old Attorney. We'll
see you next time in the Treehouse.

595
00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:59.400
Oh and by the way, Treehouse
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596
00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:02.280
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597
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598
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