Football #7: The NFL Mafia & the Tush Push

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Welcome inside the Treehouse Football Podcast.
I'm Daniel Malley, along with Trey Trenholm

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and Raj Sharma. I've already screwed
up today. I'm meant to wear my

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Ranger shirt. I would like credit
though. I would like credit though,

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for having the faith and the Rangers
to actually keep a Ranger's T shirt.

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When I moved to the Island,
I made a point to keep one just

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in case. And now I've got
a really damn good reason to wear it.

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Yeah. I've never owned anything Rangers. I've not had a hat,

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I've not had a shirt. And
then I'm not you start now, No,

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that is a bad move. I
just saw the shirts. I saw

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somebody post where the shirts are now, I believe eighty five dollars while I

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was saying, don't buy it now
because they're in the World series. Don't

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jinx it, and we know how
you like to jinx things around here.

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Okay, I mean, it's still
a shirt. What if I got a

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vintage What if I got a pre
pre owned one? What if I went

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to like a thrift store and found
a vintage Ranger shirt it's knock and wasn't

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mine. I didn't buy it.
Knew, so it comes with the luck

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of the person that was wearing it. I don't know, Trey, should

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we allow it? I think you
just I think just wait and let's hopefully

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buy a celibratory World Series Champions T
shirt. I like that. Let's do

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that because I have never owned any
Rangers here myself, so okay, So

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at this point then I'd say,
superstition wise, you stay the course,

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you make no changes whatsoever. So
if you now go purchase a shirt,

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even though it's pre owned, you've
now made a change off the course.

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So yeah, everyone just maintain current
course and heading, and then hopefully the

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Rangers may actually win a World Series
this time opposed to magnificently disappointing us twelve

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years ago. Back to back,
stop it, man, it really hurts

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the twenty ten World Series. Didn't
like San Francisco was just a better team

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than us that year. It is, And if you correct, wasn't Bruce

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Bochi the manager of that team?
Yes, he was the man, and

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the man is undefeated in game sevens, But it's the twenty eleven It's why

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I actually thought about this as like, if the Rangers won a World Series,

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will my hatred of Nelly Cruz subside. No, I don't think it

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will either, but mine will not. Mine, Mine absolutely will not.

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And the fact that I had heard, and this goes way way back,

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the fact that I had heard,
and I don't remember if this is true

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or not, or if I'm just
if I heard it somewhere and I'm just

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you know, carrying on a rumor. But I remember at some point after

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that where Nelson Cruz mishandles the fly
ball and write that leads there wasn't the

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sole reason, but it certainly contributed
to the Rangers eventual losing that World Series

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to the Cardinals. Is that they
had contemplated taking Nelson Cruz out of the

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game for a defensive replacement, but
they didn't do it because they wanted to

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be because you know, Ron Washington's
like, man, I gotta trust the

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guys that got me here. Obviously, hindsight's twenty twenty. Get that man

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out of there because he's a liability
in the field, and he was.

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And that was the one time it
really came to bite the Rangers in the

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ass. Okay, No, well, I ever totally forgive forgive him for

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it. No, but it'll make
me feel better if we win one without

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him. Now, now, how
about this, because first and foremost and

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Dan, you know this, I
don't know if Trey does. I'm a

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Yankees fan, so first and foremost, like, that's my that's my go

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to, that's the team I want
throughout the season. Right now, what

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if I buy because I am a
Yankees fan, but because it's hometown,

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I'm I'm I'm wanting to get a
shirt for the hometown guys, not for

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myself. Here's what you do.
Go to Rally House because they have some

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cool stuff. Yeah, go to
Rally House and see if they have a

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Ranger's logo slapped on the side of
a Bandwagon T shirt. That's the shirt

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for you. It's not it's not
Bandwagon. I'm just supporting everybody else's love

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of the team. Yeah. But
if that was the case, then your

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shirt would have a would have a
would have my face on it wearing a

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Rangers shirt. What if I did
Okay, Now, what if I did

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that? You can do what you
want. Okay, see that now now

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that it's got you on my now
that you're on my shirt, it's okay.

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Well, because now you're supporting a
Rangers fan. Ah. Yeah,

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that's that's what I'm supposed to being
a band wagon fan cheering for the Rangers

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just because you know whatever. Right, So that goes back to my vintage

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thrift stores of a Rangers fan.
Was like, Hey, I've I've outlived

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this shirt or you know what I
mean like that, I've got a new

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one. I don't need this one
anymore. Let me let me sell it

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off to this little consignment store that's
next to wor I was watching the game

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that I was actually going to go
over to to buy the shirt before the

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game started. Now, I didn't
want to go down this path, but

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because you brought up the fact that
you are a Yankees fan, I need

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to address it. Raj. Are
you the most basic of sports fans?

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And what I mean by that is
a Yankees fan? Right, one of

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the most successful baseball franchises in the
history of ever, maybe extremely an extremely

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valuable. And your football team is
a Dallas Cowboys, you know Murky's success

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in the last thirty years, but
still the most valuable football team in the

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NFL. So, who's your favorite
soccer team is at Manchester United? What's

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the what's the tost team trade?
I am a man Man you. You're

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a man, you fan, but
I have been. I have been since

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I was a kid. Okay,
yeah, my dad was Liverpool and so

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I was like, Who's Who's what
of Liverpool's biggest rifles, Manchester United.

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So that's why I went, who's
your team? I don't have a honckey

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team? I do like if I
if the Stars games are on, I'll

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watch the Stars game. But I
don't actively But I did. You know,

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as long as you don't say one
of the basic bitch teams, then

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you're fine. Who's your basketball team
matters? Okay? It said Lakers and

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then no, no, you were
going to be but you're going to slap

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him right out of this tree.
You can change, going to change the

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secret knock. No. It was
nineteen ninety three and I wanted to buy

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a hat of the team that I
thought would win the World Series. So

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I was at Champs No, No, I was at Lid's. Oh.

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So I was walking around and I
was like, what calls out to me?

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This team I predict will win the
World Series? So I grabbed a

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Yankees hat for the first time I've
never had. Did you even know that

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it was a Yankees hat? Or
you just got it just because you like

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the logo. No I did.
I mean I had. You know,

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I used to click baseball cards as
a kid, so I know what the

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old school logo, the old school
uniforms look like. So, and then

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they went on strike. Is that
ninety three, ninety four, ninety four?

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They went on strike? And I
remember I bought the hat and they

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went on strike, and I was
like, ah, man, but the

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cool hat. I'll just keep it. And then ESPN did a thing where

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when the strike started, statistically where
every team was who would win the World

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Series based on these analytics, it
turned out to be the Yankees. So

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I was like, hey, that's
cool, and so I just that's how

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I got turned on the to the
Yankees. Are you going to be rooting

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for the Rangers extra hard because of
the Diamondbacks upsetting the Yankees in two thousand

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and one? Yes, yeah,
that's what I'm saying. See, there's

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multiple reasons why I think that can
own a shirt. I think I can't.

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I think I can buy one,
but not at eighty five dollars if

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I can find one at a three
store. But I did see that post

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where the hoodies are now like one
hundred and five, which is fantastic.

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So they did what Taylor Swift did
for Kelsey's jersey, the Rangers did for

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their own. So Congress, I
mean, we can all agree this and

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it didn't matter you know who your
your team is. It just felt good

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to stick it to the Astros.
Yeah. Yeah, I love it as

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a Rangers fan watching watching Adulus Garcia
in the Astros over their cheating trash cans

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charter and then that flipped it when
he was done. Did you know did

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y'all know that in twenty twenty one
we designated him for assignment Garcia? Yeah?

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Was the assignment get better because it
apparently worked? I mean, and

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yeah, that puts him on the
open market. No one wanted him,

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so we re signed him. But
oh wow, that is like he I

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didn't realize his story of you we
got him in the trade with Saint Louis.

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I think, you know, basically
nobody wanted him because at that time,

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I think he was twenty six.
Was that Saven Lewis saying we're sorry

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we beat you in the World Series
even though you should have beaten us.

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Here's this guy and now and now
look at what he's doing. It was

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one. I forgot who the main
player in the trade was, but he

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was just one of those ancillary people. And but yeah, we do it

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was one of the players to be
named later. Basically that's always my favorite

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trade. But he is going so
I guess he's eligible for arbitration next year

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and he will get paid, so
he's playing for the minimum. That's that

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That is to me is just absolutely
astonishing. Yeah. Yeah, and he's

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evidently I've got I mean, all
his stats. He's no one has done

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what he's ever done before. I
think there was one and I forgot it.

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I can't even think who it was. But yeah, he tied one

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of the great baseball players of all
time of you know, hitting it in

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an ALCS. Well, I know
that he broke the record for most RBIs

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in the ALCS and ironically enough,
the previous record holder was Nelson Cruz.

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Well, I mean, yeah,
it's just a it's an exciting time here

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because it's it's it's it's I'm not
I was in LA when all the last

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two happened, so I wasn't here
to be part of the frenzy. It

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was definitely a frenzy. It was
I remember being at Cosmo's in Lakewood watching

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a baseball game, which you've ever
If you've ever been to Cosmos, which

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I know both of you have,
yes, you know. It's not exactly

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a sports bar, so it always
so. Two thousand and eleven, we

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were watching that World Series against the
Cardinals. The whole bar is sitting at

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the bar watching a tiny ass TV. And it reminded me of Major League.

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They have the punk guy sitting next
to like the normal guy in the

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red bar. That's what Cosmos looked
like. I lived that. Wow,

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I lived that moment. And we're
all pounding on the bar and everything,

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and then and then the bad stuff
happens, and then everyone just gets deathly

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quiet, and then out of nowhere, a guy behind us all just yells

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out, son of a bitch.
I have that audio somewhere on the phone.

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I'll try to find it and play
it for you guys. But it

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was. It was a heartbreaking,
gut wrenching, hysterical clip. Speaking of

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a gut wrenching and hysterical The forty
nine ers lost again. Yeah, yeah,

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do you do? Do you now
now that they've lost back to back

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weeks, do we is more?
That sting taken out of our hearts.

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Given the ass whipping they gave our
Cowboys just a couple of weeks ago,

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I think I have more questions.
I do too. I don't about the

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forty nine ers, are about the
Cowboys, all of it. Unfortunately.

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Yeah. The only team, god
I hate saying this, the only team

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that I've seen that its seems to
be dominant week in and week out are

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the Eagles. Yeah, yeah,
very true. Well except for that loss

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against the Jets. Yeah, I
mean, you're gonna you're gonna have the

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flukes. But they look really good. I mean, I Jalen Hurts who

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knew, yeah, he's uh yeah. I think when when they when they

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lost to the Jets, I think
the look on Jalen Hurts face when they

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lost to the Jets was very much
we're not doing this again. And the

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look on Dak Prescott's face when they
lost to San Francisco is like I'm not

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drinking the night before ever again.
Definitely a tale of two quarterbacks there,

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because they just looked like they all
went out and got drunk. It looked

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like the scene from Varsity Blues when
they get out of the Strip club at

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six o'clock in the morning, and
then they go play their district game and

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then everybody just looks horrible. All
right. The only thing that was really

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missing in from the Cowboys in that
forty nine Ers game was them puking all

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over the field. Yeah, but
it is one of those things where I

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go when I when I see the
forty nine Ers lose like that, that's

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when I, like Trey is saying
questions. I'm like, what did what

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were we doing? The like if
that was if that's the capacity, we

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have the capacity to defeat them handily
because who they're losing to now, if

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they lose to the Bengals, like, I'll have more questions. Yeah,

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now I'm with you there. So
this is the way I've been looking at

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it over the last couple of weeks
since the Cowboys of you know, since

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the Cowboys got their asses handed to
them in San Francisco, which isn't a

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first for everybody, but for some
it is the when you get beat that

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bad. What did I say?
Did I say something? Where are you

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all laughing? If it's something I
said, like, just raise your hand,

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tell me tell me that If that
was not planned, that was the

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greatest moment in history. I think
it's best that I did. I not

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tell you my secrets. Ray,
Oh that was worth it one because one

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because I don't want you to see
the wizard behind the wall, and also

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I want to maintain deniability. Yeah, they are going to be people that

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listen to this in their car that
are going to veer off the road after

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coffee on the windshield. Anyway,
as you were saying so brilliantly, was

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it really was as I was.
As I was saying, what was I

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saying? Now, I've I've totally
forgotten the Uh you have what the forty

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nine ers had done to the to
the and the Eagles have maintained their stuff.

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But speaking of asses, the tush
push has been a hot topic of

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conversation throughout the season because the Eagles
have have deployed it so many times and

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pretty much every single time they've done
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that now you've got the NFL looking
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And Jason Kelsey not to be confused
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Kelsey, offensive lineman for the Eagles, has said the play works. It's

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certainly it's obvious that it works,
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of a play because it's it's a
physical thing. It's not exactly kind to

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the body for anybody, especially the
offensive lineman who are up front. Where

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do you guys fall on the tush
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see. I don't see the need
to ban it. I don't understand,

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like what the motivation of the logic
behind it is. It seems like a

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very illegal play. It's not like
they invented it. They just do it

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better than anyone else ever has.
Now, part of that is that Eagles

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offensive line might be the best that's
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so good and yeah, I don't
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the tush push is just a little
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maul anyone. So you know,
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I hate it. I hate that
they do it so well. But yeah,

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but I think that's also what it
is when people see something that they

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that every team does just done better
by somebody else and go, well,

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we got to stop that, right, Well, they do it better,

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that's all it is. That's exactly
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better. Than anybody else who's attempting
it. And because of that, the

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other teams are like, hey,
we don't like it. And I keep

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that in mind. We're all Cowboys
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though that they they called it something
nice, you know, they call it

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the tush push. I've also seen
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And I'm just left guessing that Eagles
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than begging for a pegging? Am
I? Am? I? You are?

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called in the huddle, all right, who's begging for begging? Like what?

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Roj, I like how you you
took the conversation about the tush push and

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you open it up a little bit
wider for us, So you saw the

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whole picture? Well, you know, I said, you just you just

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want to look inside and see what's
what? You know? Every every now

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and again, I just give it
a crack. See what I can do.

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No, you did bring up an
interesting uh picture in my mind and

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trays during that break, which was
what did the Eagles call that play?

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Because like in the old days when
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the coach would tell the receiver,
the receiver runs the play and tells the

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quarterback. Nowadays, in high school
it's hand signals. And actually in high

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school they may even have the receivers
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they do in the NFL. I
don't know whatever it is. It's a

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difference. But what's the actual physical
name of the play? Like does the

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player come in and go, all
right, tush push on two or or

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yeah, yeah, yeah you were
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and be like, can we do
the thing? I want to do the

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thing? You want to do the
thing? What's the thing? Then the

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quarterbacks like what the thing? Oh? The thing? Oh yeah, yeah,

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I don't mind doing the thing.
You want the thing, I'll give

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you the thing. Sure. And
then and somebody's like, just stop calling

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it the thing because it's the person
that it's the association. Whatever you call

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it, that name is now associated
with it, so you have to be

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careful what name you give it because
it'll now have the negative association. On

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the other hand, the Eagles may
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at the same time, just because
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which is basically what Jason Kelsey said. The touchbush works, but it doesn't

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feel good. Every time you have
one of those moments, I have to

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remind myself we're still talking about a
play in football, not something you say

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to a counselor just because it worked
doesn't mean it felt good. I bet

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that is an interesting job. Philadelphia
Eagles HR representative. It's just the whole

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offensive line just every Monday, just
lined up, just ready, and one

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player like it did not feel good. The center is always there though,

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because he's always being groped. That
may actually be the reason why the onslaught

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of the shotgun formation in the NFL
is because maybe finally one center became a

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whistleblower and said, oh lord and
boy was the whistler Matt. So anyway,

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the Cowboys play the Rams this week. Yeah, what do we think,

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guys? What do we uh?
What do we think? The thing?

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I'm the thing I'm most fascinated by
is the Rams still have a boatload

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of talent on their team. Yes, that they had when they won the

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Super Bowl. Yet for some reason
they suck. Now they got the same

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coach, they got the same quarterback. They still got Aaron Donald. Now

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they don't have the same quarterback.
Oh yeah they do. Isn't it Stafford

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out right now? I thought he
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him. I was watching a little
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this last week, and and I'm
I thought it was Stafford that I saw

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playing. I wasn't watching that intently
because I was kind of taking the Sunday

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off and enjoying the fact that I
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Yes, it's still so I'm still
on how how quickly the Mighty have

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fallen? It seems. Yeah,
I don't like Again, it's always baffled

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me with with sports in that sense, Like there's like when it gets down

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to like the last minute and then
everybody's playing with such intensity and like where

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was that the whole game? And
then like when you have something like this

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where you have a team that's won
the Super Bowl and then you have that

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same team with basically the same staff. Like what happens? Like, what

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do you? That's why I go, that's why my and here we go

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with my conspiracy theory. Oh boy, here we go. Roger tinfoil hat

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is being placed on its brow.
I just I was. I was watching

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Run Funches uh when he was talking
about conspiracies that I was like, you

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guys, don't you guys don't believe
in any of them? Really is like

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you think the government is just batting
a thousand telling everybody the truth. So

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my theory is it goes back to
Vegas running things and Vegas baking. The

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mom still has their their their their
stronghold on all things betting wise. And

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so if you, you know,
you win a super Bowl and then you

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come back and you go, you
have the same team, what are the

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odds of them winning a super Bowl? And all this money gets dumped on

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by diehard Rams fans and they're like, cool, we need you to throw

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this, we need you to suck
now. Well here's the thing. No,

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but maybe yes. So here's the
reason I say no. The NFL

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shut up, Tray. I can
see your face. It's a strong take.

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Again, I'm not going to find
those takes on any other sports shift

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only right here in the treehouse.
I don't know anyone else that that can

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swing both ways between smart and stupid
better than me. I've really got to

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start workshopping the things I say before
I say them on the show. Anyways,

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the reason why I say no,
Raj is because the NFL is designed

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for parry. So when you win
the Super Bowl, your schedule the next

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season is, by percentage, the
most difficult next year, because you're now

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going up against all those teams from
the previous year. You know, with

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a couple of exceptions. I know
they have to play the certain you know,

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divisions that are already preset, But
your schedule is designed to be the

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most difficult of anybody's. And if
you lost every single game that same season,

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your schedule the next season is supposed
to be softer than everybody else's.

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Obviously, you're not playing yourself the
whole time, but you get the idea.

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So the NFL is designed for parody. Now that's how the Mob doesn't

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control week to week on the game. But to expand on your conspiracy,

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it is certainly possible. I don't
think likely, but it is possible the

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Mob could have influence over the NFL
as a whole and have told them to

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make the league like that. Now, granted, I don't think they did.

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I don't think they have. I
don't think the mafia has more power

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than the NFL mafia. Oh,
I think they do. I think they

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still. There's just so much money
globe the people when when it's so funny

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when people think about betting, everybody
thinks of Vegas. It's the Vegas.

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It's a global market. The mom
deals with international h betting and gambling.

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That that kind of money is in
the billions of dollars every week. So

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do you think then at the mob, if they're the ones who are secretly

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running the NFL, even though the
NFL is its own mafia. Let's be

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honest, you really think the Mob
would be down for signing Roger Goodell to

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a three year commissioner extension for two
hundred million dollars. That's chump change,

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That's that's nothing. That's on a
weekly scale of how much money goes in

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and out of Vegas and how much
Atlantic City. And then you start to

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go overseas and he's Hong Kong and
you start going in Carlo. I mean,

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it's just jump change. So what
that moment Roger Goodell? Then,

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I don't know, the world's least
intimidating consigliary. No, he's just freido.

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Wow. Wow. Everybody thinks he's
stupid, but he's smart. Yeah.

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No, I don't know. I
saw I saw the story the other

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day that that Goodell was signing a
contract extension for two hundred million dollars,

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which is a huge number. And
then I saw that that the term of

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the deal was only three years.
Yeah, my god. Yeah, and

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that's for them to go, hey, is this is how much do you

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need for you to keep doing what
we tell you to do. He's like,

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let me just throw something against wall. It's like it's like Alex Rodriguez

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with the Rangers and when they're like, so we're gonna walk into this room,

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what are you gonna say? He's
like a two hundred and fifty million

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dollars? Are you nuts? And
the know door opens, like what you

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got? It's like two hundred fifty
million dollars. Orange just went sounds good,

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Just like what the hell just happened? That's what that's what that is.

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When he's number out there. That
was Tom Hicks's ego. Yeah,

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but still that was everybody in the
world went what Yeah, because he wanted

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Yeah, he wanted to double what
the highest baided contract was and Tom Hicks

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was stupid enough to give it to
him. And this is Roger Goodell if

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you want to talk about he's you
know, he's Fredo for the NFL owners.

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Now, that's a little mafia.
That's what I'm getting in the NFL.

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That's That's exactly what I'm getting at
when I say the NFL is a

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mafia. It's designed, it's set
up in the in the very similar fashion

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as the mob is as we know
it, because it has no competition.

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It's set up under it's not even
text, it's it's I believe it's it's

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it's filing with the I r S. Is a non profit. Yes,

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they do have anti ruistics like they
have. Yeah, they have anti trust

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exemptions which protects them. That's why
they always say they call it the shield.

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You gotta protect the shield or what
that shield protects is the owners,

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which are the individual you know,
captains or mob bosses, and they're the

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ones that appoint the CONSIGLIERI. The
NFL Commissioner as the one who is the

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main protector of the NFL. But
the NFL is basically the group of owners

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that own all the teams. Yes, but they're put so. They were

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given the system by the creators of
the system, and then they go,

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this is how you do this.
We're going to show you how this is

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done. But then we're gonna dictate
how you do things. Uh, because

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we have to be in the shadows. We have to operate in secrecy,

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and you guys do not. Yeah, two on that for a bit.

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See, you guys think my conspiracy
theories are crazy. Nope, well I

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just I just gave you a new
one. Yes, no, you gave

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me the same one. You're just
That was my whole theory is they operate

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in secrecy while the NFL is their
mob in the spotlight. Oh okay,

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I thought I was. I thought
I I thought I took your kernel of

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a conspiracy and expanded it. M
that's all. I got a bag of

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popcorn, buddy, I'm good.
But yeah, I mean I think that's

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because I don't understand how that works. You have the same people or are

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they playing injured? Are they playing
with Lomra or did some people not get

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a contract, and some people not
get the money that they wanted, so

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they're not going to play as hard. I don't know how well that's that

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way. I look, I look, I can I can have fun with

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it and lean into the fact that
maybe the mafia actually controls the NFL.

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But I will, I will certainly
say that the NFL is run like a

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mafia style organization because of its figureheads
and how it operates that I believe.

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Now whether or not it's intentional that
they did that, I don't know,

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But I don't think that the players
are in on it, because they're you

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know, they're they're they're stoes.
That's right, That's that's right. They're

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the hired the hired muscle that that
take the fall for they're captains whenever they

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need to take the phone. You
see how this plays out. So well,

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it's just but again, the players
are unwinning accomplices because they're they're just

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playing. They're just playing the game. Now some of them maybe become aware.

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Yes, you know, they always
call it, oh, it's a

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business. Well it is a business. And that's how once once they've you

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know, sort of come to terms
with that as a player, because it's

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not high school where you do it
for fun and love. It's not college

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where you do it for fun and
love and sex and beer and some money.

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If you're really really good in the
NFL is all about the money and

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the other things will come with it. Yeah. Oh, they just bring

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that stuff with it from college.
They just get more money that's not around.

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But they're still bringing drug, sex
and beer. They're they're bringing that

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to the draft. That's at the
table. Yeah. I mean I had

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friends that played college football and college
back and uh boosters, that's what they're

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still called. I would just call
them money givers. They Yeah, it's

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it's impressive what they would get shoes
and clothes and free tattoos, and I

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mean it's just that's nothing. Go
read what all the players got when they

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were at SMU in the eighties.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I

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mean that's what the gold trans am
that was the that was the dopeness.

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No, but that was given to
him by A and M. That wasn't

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even given to Eric Dickerson buying SMU. He just drove it into town.

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That was the best one. Well, that well, that should go to

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tell you something though, Is that
a and M gave him the Gold trans

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Am and he still went to SMU. So do you know I should tell

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you what he got from SMU was
better than Gold Exam. Yes, the

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story behind Craig James going to SMU
is he had signed with A and M

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and but he was you know,
at his high school sweetheart who he's still

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married to. And SMU was smart
enough to give her a band scholarship.

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She had never been an instrument.
Say that again. You gave her a

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band scholarship although she had never played
an instrument. Oh, she played one.

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Scholarships are not free. She was
a whistleblower. I think we found

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Simu's deep throat. If you're listening
to this and not watching, I'm just

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shaking my head left and right.
I said it, but I'm ashamed.

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Be sure to get all things Treehouse
at Treehouse on air dot com. That

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includes the Fridday Treehouse podcast episode which
will be out tomorrow. And of course

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don't forget to go and download and
listen and enjoy with friends and family.

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The Treehouse Halloween Special twenty twenty three
available now everywhere podcasts are available. So

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I mean, if you're listening to
this, then you should see it.

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It's right there next to it.
Go listen to the Halloween spreadshow. It

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was a lot of fun to do. We'll see you Friday in the treehouse.

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Yep, yep.