Football Podcast #1

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Welcome to the Treehouse Football Podcast,
Episode number one, season number one.

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I'm not gonna focus too much on
the season number one because I don't know

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if we'll you know, go into
a second season or not. But Treehouse

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Football Podcast number one, Yeah,
welcome, Welcome to it. I'm Dan

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ol Malley along with Trey Trenholme.
You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna rephrase

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that, I'm Dan o'm malley along
with UT alum Trey Trenholme, and not

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Texas State but Southwest Texas State alum
Raj Sharmah. There you go. I

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didn't throw mine in because I went
to UT Arlington for all of a year

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and a half and we didn't even
have a football team, So why even

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mention it? Unless we start doing
a Treehouse Wheelchair Basketball podcast. My college

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has no bearing in this show.
The comment is it? The comments?

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Is that what you guys know?
Well, it's the it's the It's Uta

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Mavericks, Mavericks. Okay, the
comments. The wheelchair team is unless they've

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changed. It is the moving maths, the moving maths. All right,

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Okay, don't they they have a
pretty good basketball team, now, don't

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they? They do? They do? I I'll admit I haven't followed it

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a whole lot. I'm not sure
who was more surprised about the new basketball

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arena, the basketball team or anyone
that ever went to UTA and we had

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a nice little upset over Baylor.
Southwest Texas or Texas State defeated Baylor in

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their home open. Well, that's
exciting. Maybe we can get into that

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when we touch on the college side
of football growing up in the all New

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Treehouse Football podcast The Treehouse, We've
decided to branch out because we're not busy

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enough, or we apparently don't say
enough. As it is twice a week

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during the Treehouse Podcast, we feel
the need to also flood your ears with

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our sports thoughts. So here we
are. I like, go when you

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said we're not busy enough, and
I just thought Trey's head turned like eiel

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Mally, I haven't slept in three
days. I feel like elvit's on a

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bender. Well, that means you
probably appear to have more energy than the

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Giants offensive line did this last week
for you. Speaking of surprises, was

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anybody's surprised by the Cowboys victory Sunday
Night in the season opener over the Giants?

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Forty to nothing. How could you
not be? I mean, I

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don't know about surprised, more of
like the just the moments that we're just

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never ending in the game, Like
the moments of like oh okay, I

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didn't see that coming. Oh I
didn't know that was gonna happen. Oh,

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just that over and over again.
By the end of it, I

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was tired. Well, I was
tired after the first I'd say six or

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seven minutes. However long it took
for the Giants to march down the field

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and then the Cowboys to block that
kick, return it for a touchdown,

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and when Trey and I were texting
each other, missed the extra point to

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take a six nothing lead, to
which Trey responded, that was the most

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Cowboys sequence ever. And he was
not wrong. Right then and there,

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I thought, oh no, they've
picked up right where they left off last

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season, which is do something good
and then just look like a total idiot

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right after it. Yeah, but
I mean, to their credit, you

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have the kid Aubrey I think is
his last name, that there is a

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place kicker now has in God love
him for it. Had never kicked in

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the NFL. I don't think he
kicked in college. He was uh,

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he was a soccer player, and
he was drafted in the first round of

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Major League Soccer and then I think
he went to the USFL for Birmingham because

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he was in the USFL and May
missed only one field goal attempt that previous

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season, and to his credit,
he missed that one. Because I'm sure

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this is what the conversation was on
the sideline when that happened, because when

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I heard like his background, you
know, the USFL is vastly different than

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the NFL. Right, So hey, hang on, Trey, let's look

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that. Yeah, that that there
is a that is a hot take there.

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That is a John Madden take.
That That is the kind of professional

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take you will get here on the
Treehouse Football podcast. Right. The NFL

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is harder than the USFL. Let's
just send the show right there. They're

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both, they're both, they're both
professional football. I'm just saying those are

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very John Madden as like two of
these, out of these two teams,

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one's gotta win. Like, that's
a that's the Madden take. Yeah.

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The only thing you're missing is is
the marker on the screen and a Turkey

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leg and athletes would endorsement, right, So there's four things. Yeah,

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and then you know, he misses
the one kick and that's his first time

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to kick in the NFL. And
I'm sure he went to the sideline.

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They're like, you know, he
can still fire you right like like probably

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again, and then we will leave
you here. There is there is precedent

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in in Cowboys history where you f
up bad enough, they will not let

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you on the plane to go back
to Texas. Yeah, it's one of

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those like you're gonna be a giant
or homeless, so don't don't miss another

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kick. And then I was reading
the stats of the game, and it

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was, you know, the blocked
the block field goal for the touchdown return,

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and the shutout and then this and
and all of those things, and

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they combined it to no other NFL
team has ever suffered all of those things

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in one season, let alone in
one game. So who gets who gets

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more credit for them the Cowboys for
having forced it upon the Giants or the

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Giants just kind of looking like a
Benny Hill skit. I want to see

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that game set to that music.
I like that because you could have just

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had you could have had the old, the old Benny Hill music playing just

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on repeat of watching watching Danny Dimes
run around all over the field away from

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the Cowboys defense. I just I
flashed back to last week with one of

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the ESPN guys whose theory was to
run at to do everything at Michael Parsons,

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Like that's what he wants. That
was his suggestion to every team is

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you want to go directly to him. And I'm like, after watching that

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game, I'm like, I'd like
for you to just say that again,

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because that didn't seem to work if
that was your philosophy on how to defeat

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the Cowboys or or beat their defense
is to run at, run the ball

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at Michael Parsons. The other surprise
in this game was that Trey, I

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think you and I in our little
text exchange during the game, we touched

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on this as well. So the
Cowboys throw up forty points, but if

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we're being honest, the offense was
kind of me, Oh yeah, yeah,

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I don't I don't think that was
disputed in any way. I don't

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know. It's just typically what you
would do is if for some reason you

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were just going through the box scores
or you didn't have to watch the game,

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and you see the Cowboys beat the
Giants on the road forty to nothing

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on Sunday night, You're like,
oh my god, their offense clearly just

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lit it up, when in reality, no, they just they just kind

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of went about the day just like
oh, we're here too, just kind

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of hanging out. The offensive stats
for the game were very pedestrian for Dallas.

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Like when you look at the score, do you go forty nothing?

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You think you know, they would
have you know, Dak would have thrown

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for four hundred yards and they had
all these standout performances and you just didn't.

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I mean, and that's you know, the Giants that first drive up

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until that last sequence, they were
moving the ball at will and you're going,

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all right, this is gonna be
you know, one of those things

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that's gonna be back and forth,
back and forth, and you know,

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come down to a field goal,
and then it's like and then you go,

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well, were the cowboys? Like? You know, sometimes they'll run

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set plays, like the first ten
plays of offense are already scheduled. I

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don't know if they do that on
the defense where they do, and that

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then all of a sudden they made
adjustments and they just overwhelmed the Giants.

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I don't because it's like, what's
that field goal got blocked? It's like

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the entire will just got sucked out
of that team and then it was then

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it was the Benny Hill Show of
just and then poor. I've never thought

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I would feel sorry for Daniel Jones, but by the end of that game,

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I'm Dan and I are texting,
I'm going like they got to take

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him out, like yeah, it's
like they've got one hundred and sixty something

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million and wrapped up in that guy. Yeah, and he to his like

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he just took a beating. He
did and he could have come out looking

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way worse. Despite the fact that
Trey you're saying you feel bad for Daniel

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Jones and how he's running for his
life in that game, I feel bad

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for Daniel Jones because to me,
I can't look to me, Daniel Jones

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looks like a Beaker on assessment.
So I pondered this question and I see,

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now, yeah, I can't either. It's kind of like, uh

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so, in addition into Daniel Jones
looking like Beaker from Sesame Street, it

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is Sesame Street, right or is
it? Or the Muppet Show? The

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Muppet Show? Yeah, all right. In addition to Daniel Jones looking like

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Beaker from the Muppets. Uh old
Giants coach Tom Coughlin. One day watching

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a game, I saw Tom Coughlin
and all of a sudden, all I

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could see was he looked exactly like
Jeff Dunham's Walter Muppet, sort of like

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how uh, sort of sort of
like, how got Daniel Baker Jones?

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You've got Tom, don't call me
Walter Coughlin and Sean Blue Steel Peyton.

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Once you see those things, you
can't unsee them, so like I remember,

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yeah, I just I was wondering
if there's something because I was looking

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at Daniel Jones and then I was
like, is there something with the Giants

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helmets? Because it almost gave him
stupid face? Like yeah, Eli,

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it's like Giants helmets. I think
you really as soon as as soon as

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a human quarterback puts on that Giant's
helmet, they just immediately go dirt.

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I just a buddy of mine is
from Yonkers, New York, and he's

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a Giants fan forever, and this
is when like and we trash talk every

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single time the Cowboys and the Giants
play. And I didn't get a response

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back from him for this game.
I just I texted. All I said

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is after and again, like you
said, after that block field goal,

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the not only did the will go, I think you could feel the energy

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get sucked out of that stadium.
I think I think at that point,

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if you have any Giants fans after
that game or actually somewhere in the middle

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of the third quarter, was the
time too, as they say, check

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on your Giants friends. Yes,
and so I just after that, after

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that block field goal, Uh,
I go, man, you guys are

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looking and I just stopped there the
ellipses ouch. Uh. And then we

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missed that the extra point and I
got nothing back, and I was like,

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oh, this is interesting. He
normally this would be right, this

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would be the appropriate time for him
to go. And you were saying,

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and then obviously he would have been
correct. Yeah, And then the rest

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of the game happened, and then
he just exactly so, just so,

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just when you thought things couldn't get
any worse for the city and state of

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New York and their football teams,
Monday night comes around. Yes, and

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the team that the Cowboys play next, the Jets. Their big splash offseason

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move is getting Aaron Rodgers. They
they they pulled Brett Farve, you know,

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part two and build the Packers quarterback
over to the Jets. And how

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long ended the game was? It
was it even five minutes. The most

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running Aaron Rodgers did before he tore
what we think is a torn achilles was

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him carrying the flag running out onto
the field during the pregame stuff. Yeah,

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that you know, And and I
feel I feel bad for him.

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I mean, poor guy. I
mean really, here's why, Like he's

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done this whole Ayawaska journey and apparently
he used to be a tremendous a hole

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and now he's like gone back to
like former players in Green Bay and like

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apologized and you know, he's got
his his his spiritual side is there.

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Like he's apologized to his family,
like he really Yeah have they Have they

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accepted it? Because I believe so. Yeah, because even even the brother.

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Yeah, so that the whole thing, because he was on the Bachelor.

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When he's on the Bachelor and he
was his brother, Jordan Rodgers,

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and he ended up marrying the girl
from Dallas. Yeah, and like and

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one of the girls that he took
home is like footy, think Aaron's gonna

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be here and he's like he hasn't
been here in eight years. Still stop

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asking, Like, yeah, I
think he's like he's I think he showed

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up to his family's thing for the
holidays, like that was the thing.

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Uh, And like he here's his
moment, like he's gone through the spiritual

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journey and I and I admire that, and I'm like, good for you.

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And he's made amends and and all
of those goods. And he's got

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a new team. He just bought
a new house, like eight million dollars

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new house. So it turns out
you can make all the amends you want,

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but Carmen is still gonna get you. But the turf is a bitch.

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Yeah he didn't. He didn't make
amends with the astro turf Diddy Somewhere

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somewhere in somewhere in that stadium,
the turf monster, the turf Monster of

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New York was like, m he
didn't apologize to me. Been playing on

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grass this whole time, Hum,
bitch somewhere below the turf monsters saying,

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now is my time I've been waiting
for you, keep calling me fake grass?

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How's your foot like? And then
that moment hit and you could see

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it on his face, and I
was like yeah, and they you know,

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the whole game, just speculation until
the press conference when it's like it

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looks it doesn't look good. I
remember the next the next morning, seeing

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a slow motion replay and they had
it zoomed in on his lower leg and

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you could see the line down the
back of his leg just kind of just

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kind of wobble in a way that
is in no way natural. Yeah.

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Everyone looking at that's like, yeah, he's done. Yeah. And then

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you can see the if you watch
it again, and I'm sure you can

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go back and look at you can
see the recoil rolls up into into the

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back of his leg and and and
then his and then just his face was

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like I'm done. And somebody I
can't remember I was watching ESPN his earliest

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morning and they're like, well's he's
definitely gonna come back, Like this is

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not the way he wanted it to
go. It's a really really hard injury

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didn't come back from. Yeah,
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of getting back on that uh and
then yeah, I you know as much

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he's gonna have it, He's gonna
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the turf Monster. Yeah, that's
what I'm like. Maybe he can go

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on another iowaspan journey and then the
turf Monster and him can hug it out

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on on a celestial plane somewhere.
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bunch because I don't know any Like
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is our chance. We've in four
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kid from from Stephen Fos and to
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him, he basically forced his way
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because he don't no, no,
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football. He forced his way on
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know they got the win, and
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I don't know what they're gonna do
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uh eleven years old, he's eleven
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that was the best Zach Martin's played. Like I was actually I think that

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I watched some of that game.
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Zech Wilson, Zach Wilson. Yeah, and uh, I mean compared,

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Cowboys games. And I might take
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truth what exach, what is this
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is we're not gonna bar you with
a bunch of knowledge. No, we're

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not gonna borry you with a bunch
of knowledge and hard information. A lot

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of us gonna be conjecture and a
lot of just you know, feelings.

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Yeah, you can go to you
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This is gonna be fun, exactly. This is gonna be fun.

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I would be like, they look
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turns and he's just on that that the

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cordless phone. I gotta do what
he just freezes time. Yes, he

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has to turn to one of the
cheerleaders and make sure she's off the caffeine

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pills before he can get into the
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year two and good, and I
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he won the game. And that
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could feel that, like that fourth
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when Aaron Rodgers got off the field, that whole stadium was like, and

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so do we go now to beat
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sense of the building. And then
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that one again. And Wilson,
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uh, that catch in the end
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that he just caught laying on his
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number number two. I think it's
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you know what's sad about that is
I didn't even see that. In some

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of the clips on social media the
next morning, it was all Aaron Rodgers

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leg recoiling. Yeah, yeah,
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yeah, but what if this was
like and and let's let's see if we

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can call this what if it is
one of those great moments in football history

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where this kid who's the backup to
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game, who is just literally I
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sixth grade to play that night.
I don't know what time it's bedtime is,

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but it's called it's called the permission
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we didn't have those. We had
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he and he wins. What if
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what if he like what if they
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to the dance? Like what if
he is the they're going to go to

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the dance because it's the sixth grade
social it's a mom mommy sundance. You

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just see the image of here's some
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the sideline looking at her watch,
going your bedtimes midnight, Zach, you

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better wrap this up over time.
That's just the reporter from ESPN's like,

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I'm gonna ask you four questions and
it's night, nighttime. And it's not

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a towel that the trainer pulls out
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blanky. Let see the press conference
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of him and his mouth piece is
an actual passifier. The NFL really will

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put those logos on anything? Is
that a binky? One? Last one,

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last piece of Cowboys information before before
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of things. Here on the very
first episode of the Treehouse Football podcast,

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and that is an allegation against Jerry
Jones for making racially charged comments. There's

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a new lawsuit that's been filed against
the NFL by a reporter named Jim Trotter,

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and he attributes a secondhand racist remark
to Bill's owner Terry Pigoula. As

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to Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, Trotter
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charged commentary. Do you guys hear
about this ship? Yes? Yeah.

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Beginning at paragraph one ten of the
complaint, Trotter explains that in the aftermath

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of John Gruden's departure from the Raiders
in October twenty twenty one, after the

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release of various inappropriate emails, Trotter
planned to share on NFL Now a racist

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statement that allegedly had been made by
Jones to Trotter at the twenty twenty one

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Pro Bowl Hall of Fame game between
the Steelers and the Cowboys. Trotter,

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while on the field before the game, was congregating with other reporters. The

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complaint alleges at one point, mister
Trotter was speaking to Will McClay, the

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Cowboys vice president of player personnel,
about the fact that NFL teams tend not

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to draft many players out of historically
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and whether that might be due to
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decision making positions like general managers.
Mister Jones joined the conversation and mister Trotter

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asked why teams had so few black
decision makers, and he says mister Jones

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dodged the question and stated that players
get a large percentage of league revenue and

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majority of players are black. In
effect, mister Jones was stating that black

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people should be quote be happy for
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of their rights, positions in society, or a quality and mister Jones.

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Mister Trotter reiterated his question, to
which mister Jones responded, I'm starting to

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feel a little defensive. However,
notwithstanding jones previous answer on history of conduct,

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Trotter made it clear that he was
not attacking him or even speaking about

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the Cowboys, but just asking about
the league in general, and then,

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onto paragraph one sixteen of the complaint, mister Jones finally responded, quote,

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if blacks feels some kind of way, they should buy their own team and

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hire who they want to hire.
This is the point at which I would

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like to point out that Jerry Jones
has denied the allegation and said that it

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is inaccurate, and as far as
the Bill's owner, he has said it's

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completely untrue on his end of things. You know, I don't think this

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story will gain any traction, and
it's the same thing. It's why,

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you know, in the off season, when the pictures surfaced of Jerry Young

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Jerry Jones at the when they were
integrating his school in Arkansas, and he

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you know, everyone tried to make
a big deal out of it. But

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at the end of the day,
I don't think the story has any traction

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because I think in general most people
assume that Jerry Jones is kind of a

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racist. Thank you, Yes we
do. He's an eight year old Andrew

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Arkansas. He's you know, that's
that's not that's not shocking. The only

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reason it's the headline is because he
owns the Cowboys. I guarantee you there's

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another eighty year old man in Arkansas
right now saying the same stuff and no

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one shocked by it because it's an
eight year old whit guy in Arkansas.

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No, there's there's also a million
eighty year old men across this country.

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When that statement was made, when
I know, yeah, so, uh

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what. Anytime stuff like this comes
out, it just takes me back to

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when Bill Burr was talking about the
the former owner of uh gosh, I

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think it was Golden State. Uh
when when all the racist about Donald Sterling

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the Clippers, yeahs the Clippers.
Yeah, when he when he said all

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the things he said and Bill came
out and was like, Yeah, was

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anybody surprised. I would. It's
like if if if he was at his

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age and how he grew up,
if he wasn't racist, I'd be stunned.

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that would be more surprising. The

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other way. The thing I think
is always interesting is the Cowboys. Everything

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is under under is under a scope. You know, it's under a magnifying

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glass. Everything's always blown up because
it's the Cowboys. And it's no different

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with Jerry Jones, except some of
the Cowboys players that are not able to

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withstand some of the controversy many have
over the years. Sometimes they don't,

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like I don't think uh Terrence Williams
ever truly recovered from falling off that scooter

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in Frisco. And I mean like
the actual two wheel razor scooter, not

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like an actual motorized scooter. Anyway. Yeah, I aggress No matter what

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controversy has ever popped up in front
of or behind Jerry Jones, He's always

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been able to skate by it,
slip through it, whatever it is people

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talk about. You know, Donald
Trump being the teflon don Jerry Jones is

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more slippery than any other sports owner
than any other eighty year old man making

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questionable comments or doing questionable things.
Honestly, at the end of the day,

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Jerry Jones to me is kind of
like a dolphin. He's horning any

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slippery Well. I'll tell you why
Ilay was compared Jerry Jones too, and

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it's because their same agent from the
same city is Bill Clinton, like talking

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about like it's just everything just kind
of rolls off like like he'll be it

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might be in a in an s
storm for a little bit, but at

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the end of the day, he's
gonna get through it. And I think

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part of the reason why the people
that might get taken out oh yeah,

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got him. And I think part
of the reason why is one's popularity and

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two at the end of the day, he's kind of likable. I don't

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I don't know. If I don't
know, if Jerry Jones isn't any way

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likable, I wouldn't say that.
I would just say that it's not shocking.

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Like when I saw the picture,
like the same picture that Trey was

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talking about of the of when they
were integrating to school, the first thing

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I saw was the kid with a
cigarette, like like they could smoke then

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like like that was my I wasn't
wasn't the only change that was happening at

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the time. Yes, there was
a no smoking policy apparently went up,

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but that's what I because that when
it when it came, and not to

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take it to a serious note,
but when it comes to racism and and

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things like that, I'm forty I'll
be forty eight this year. I've I've

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I've dealt with it a lot and
nothing stuns me. So when I hear

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this stuff and I'm like, okay, yeah, I mean, unless the

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league does something about it, then
bravo. But nobody else is gonna do

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anything. It's not gonna gain any
traction just because I go, oh yeah,

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look who said it well and well, And it's also just it's also

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just an allegation. As far as
we know, there's no audio of this

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there you know there's this, there's
no video of it. So it's basically

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it's a it's a he said,
he said type of situation. One of

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you's a reporter, one's a billionaire
owner in the NFL. Who do you

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think is going out ahead exactly?
Who can who can buy the media enough

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to where this story gets buried?
Every single time. And it's also the

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other white owner of another team is
going, I didn't hear nothing, and

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they're like, oh, okay,
that I got you. Uh. And

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it's when they call it a good
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It's it's they all have the same
thought process. They all think the

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same way because they for us to
think people evolve, they grow up that

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way in that isolated cocoon of billionaires
and and and that society to think that

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they're just gonna wake up one day
and evolve and go everything I've ever thought

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was wrong. It's kind of presumptuous
on our part. And you think he's

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gonna skate this. Yeah, I
I doubt like by a week from now

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this is even a story. I'm
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that's the reason why I wanted to
bring it up is because I bet

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by the time we record the next
Free House Football podcast, yeah, it's

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not going to be a thing at
all. I'm I'm honestly, I'm less

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curious about what possible or what alleged
racist comments or racially charged comments Jerry Jones

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has. I'm more interested in the
in the in the girl that said you're

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my father, Yeah, how do
we? Yeah, what happened to that

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part? Like well, and there's
also you know, there is a and

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it happened in the last week that
there's also a sexual harassment lawsuit against Jerry

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that a judge said could could move
forward. So it's not that Jerry's without

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problems. I just don't think this
one because at the end of the day,

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and you know, I'm not much
of a conspiracy theorist, but I

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you know, money and power NFL
is such a big business. I mean,

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it is a juggernaut, and it
is so tight end of every media

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outlet that at the end of the
day, I think they can bury a

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story if it gain traction. But
like I said, I think everyone just

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kind of goes, yeah, it's
Jerry, you know, yeah, he's

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probably a racist, And kind of
the what you're saying, Trey, is

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that Jerry Jones has a really big
shovel. Oh yeah, can burry whatever

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he wants if he chooses. I
think I also think Jerry Jones wakes up

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every morning and like reads these things
and just all he says is like God,

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damn it, Scotch, Like that's
like he blames all his problems on

405
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406
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407
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Welcome back to the Treehouse Football Podcast
number one. Now that we've had our

408
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grubby Jerry Jones fingers all over the
Dallas Cowboys week one, and I look

409
00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:34.759
ahead to week two against and Aaron
Rodgers less New York Jets time. What's

410
00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:38.960
that, Trey? Oh, it's
funny you're talking about Jerry Jones and how

411
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:44.440
like he is like TEF one,
nothing's gonna stick to him. And then

412
00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:47.240
you have, you know, on
the other end of the spectrum. Have

413
00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:51.720
you all read about the Michigan State
football coach Mel Tucker? No? What

414
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:56.400
is this? Okay? So,
now, I don't want to sound like

415
00:30:56.440 --> 00:30:59.440
I'm a complete sports moron when it
comes to current events. I know something

416
00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:03.240
happened with Michigan State's head coach,
but I don't know exactly, and I

417
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:07.480
wasn't sure if it was related to
the gymnastics controversy they had with the Michigan

418
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:11.519
State doctor for the women's gymnastics scene, So I wasn't sure if those two

419
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:15.759
were combined. So there's something new. Yes. So now the backdrop of

420
00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:21.799
this is the Larry Nasser situation in
that Michigan State for years, knowingly or

421
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:25.559
unknowingly, you know, was a
haven for Larry Nasser to just do horrible

422
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:30.359
things to girls and so, and
there was a culture of cover up and

423
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:33.680
everything else. So they brought in
at oh what, well in sports,

424
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:37.920
I mean that was gymnastics. But
yeah, and so they brought in a

425
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:44.920
woman to basically be the compliance officer, not only a Title nine compliance offers,

426
00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:48.200
to make sure that there was good
reporting, that there was no retribution

427
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:52.599
against people who were making claims anything
else. Well, evidently she and Mel

428
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:56.079
Tucker, the head football coach of
Michigan State, became friends to the point

429
00:31:56.119 --> 00:32:02.599
where he was masturbating on while on
the phone with her. Did you say

430
00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:07.079
they were friends? Well, they
were friendly? I guess was this was

431
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:14.680
this his really really horrible attempt at
getting out of the friend zone. You

432
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:19.920
know, I don't who knows.
And and of all, I don't care

433
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:24.880
if if she was begging you,
you just like she is the compliant,

434
00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:29.240
like she's not going to lose in
this situation. No, and I would,

435
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:31.000
well, first of all, if
I'm melt Tucker, the head football

436
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:35.079
coach at Michigan State. The first
thing I would be thinking of is my

437
00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:39.400
is my ten year, ninety five
million dollar contract. The second thing I

438
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:46.400
would be considering is if the title
nine compliance officer for the university. If

439
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:50.880
Trey, like you said, she
was begging me, Oh yeah, I

440
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:52.319
want you to do this, I
want you to do that. I want

441
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.400
you to do I would assume it's
a test, and if I fail that

442
00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:58.640
test, I'm out of my ninety
five million dollars. I'm not going to

443
00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:00.599
assume, oh yeah, she wants
me. No, I'm gonna so much

444
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:04.680
a test and I should pass it. I didn't know again, like with

445
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:06.880
you, Dad, I didn't know
which scandal we were talking about. So

446
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:09.920
I read a little bit about this, and I think, what the the

447
00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:14.400
angle that met? I just love
saying mel Tucker because it's just it's just

448
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:17.799
such an old like nobody there's no
fresh Mels coming out anymore, Like there's

449
00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:22.279
nobody nobody's naming a kid Mel anymore. It's like we're done with Mels,

450
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:28.119
and Barbara's like there's no there's no
more Rod Faith. I think I think

451
00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:30.680
what's old becomes new again. I
think I think Melvin may make a comeback.

452
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:34.559
Something I don't. I don't think. I don't think there's kids being

453
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:37.279
born today, Like there's a guy
has a daughter and he's like, you

454
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:39.519
know the name of Ronda like that. I think those names are gone.

455
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:44.319
But mel I now, I don't
know how much of this is what his

456
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:45.920
perception was, or what the truth
is, or if it was just a

457
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:52.519
bad breakup. The his take on
it, this was a consensual phone sex

458
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:58.559
thing between the fact that they were
an item behind the scenes and he's he's

459
00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:02.160
married it, I believe, yes, and again again it goes back into

460
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:07.679
the yes. But behind the scenes, I think it was, uh,

461
00:34:07.760 --> 00:34:13.920
we kept it a secret because she
is the compliance officer, and that's why

462
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:17.599
we kept it a secret. And
I think when and also because he's married,

463
00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:21.320
so it would make sense if they
were having a relationship to keep it

464
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:29.079
quiet for those two reasons. And
ninety five million dollars two okay, yeah,

465
00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:30.679
and in like the second year of
that ten year, ninety five million

466
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:36.719
dollar contract. But okay, yeah, well, well we'll say all of

467
00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:43.280
that stipulate you're still you're you're now
the head coach of a major college football

468
00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:46.079
program. So obviously you have some
semblance of intelligence and everything else. And

469
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:52.800
you you're married, so you know
that if stuff goes south, that you're

470
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:57.639
dealing with someone who could absolutely wreck
your life. Yes, but you also

471
00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:01.199
but you've also both of you guys
have also just hit on everything beforehand.

472
00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:05.239
When you're like, they have the
power to cover things up. There is

473
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:07.440
a history of cover ups. There
is a history of burying things. So

474
00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:13.239
when you see this, you're okay. First of all, men saying that

475
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:15.880
he could possibly feel invincible. Yeah, and and and also when it comes

476
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:21.760
to men being more intelligent when it
comes to the fairst sex. Uh,

477
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:23.239
I didn't say more. I didn't
say more intelligent. No, no,

478
00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:28.880
And he's like for that situation said
football terms. Yeah, you're like you

479
00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:30.480
like he got to where he is, he's got to be somewhat intelligent when

480
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:36.320
it comes to like men and women, like we've started wars because of like

481
00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:39.280
for women's sake, like to garner
their attention. We're not the brightest.

482
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:44.400
When he will do pretty much anything
at our disposal to get late. Yeah,

483
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:46.920
there's a great there's a great interview
with remember Stevo from Jackass, like

484
00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:50.199
he was he liked this girl in
high school and he thought she was the

485
00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:53.199
cutest thing in the world, and
he was wanting her to ditch class with

486
00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:55.320
him, and she's like, well, we can't. We don't have an

487
00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:58.920
excuse to get out. So he
ripped a tooth out of his mouth.

488
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:01.840
Uh, and he's gush, like, just physically ripped the twoth out of

489
00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:07.000
his mouth and like asked to be
excused from class to go to the nurse

490
00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:09.119
and thought, and he goes his
last words where he goes, Man,

491
00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:13.880
she didn't think that was cool.
Like I'm like, okay, yeah,

492
00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:17.199
most women don't want to make out
with you know, blood soaked. Yeah,

493
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:20.559
and so we're not the brightest when
it comes to it. I think

494
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:23.079
he went, if I keep it
quiet, you know, she's also she

495
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:27.199
could I mean, she could stand
to lose too. She's a compliance officer

496
00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:30.840
and we're having a relationship. But
also it's me and they just signed me

497
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:36.079
to ninety five million dollars. They're
gonna do whatever it's gonna take. And

498
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:39.079
I think he's thinking of that time
back in those days when that was the

499
00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:42.400
top of the list, like,
hey, we keep all of this quiet,

500
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:45.280
shut up about it, because we
have ninety five million dollars to lose.

501
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:47.280
And now we're in a different time
where it's like, hey, listen,

502
00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:52.840
we gotta call it for what it
is. Yeah, but this you,

503
00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:55.679
you are the head coach of a
major program. You have ninety five

504
00:36:55.679 --> 00:37:00.960
million dollars. Of all the women
that you decide to have an affair with,

505
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:05.920
there there are very few that really
could topple you, but the one,

506
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:10.960
because you know she was brought in, she already has outstanding credibility.

507
00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:15.920
And all it takes is one fight
and you're screwed. All it takes is

508
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:19.559
one fighter. Hey, where do
you want to what do you want tonight?

509
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:23.960
And it ends up, Oh yeah, I had you. You were

510
00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:27.639
playing with yourself on the phone.
I'm gonna go tell everyone. No,

511
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:29.800
It's like the fight is like,
you know, what do you want to

512
00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:30.840
have for dinner night? Whatever you
have with your wife the other night?

513
00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:37.960
Like that's what and you you you
said something and I think you mentioned backwards

514
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:40.519
because you said of all the women
you could have an affair with, you

515
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:44.360
do mean when it comes to him, of all the women that would have

516
00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:46.039
an affair with you, like,
like, I don't know, there's not

517
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:49.920
a lot of people going around like, you know, I'm banging mel Let's

518
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:52.519
see that. No. Here's the
thing though, but there are and that's

519
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:57.280
the other side of this is where
the two of you actually coincide with the

520
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:00.559
two sides of the things that you're
saying. He feels invincible because he's powerful,

521
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:04.559
he's a big football coach, and
they'll cover up anything. And then

522
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:07.079
Trey's also saying it's like, well, this this, this is a powerful

523
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:13.320
and rich man. There are plenty
of options for powerful men on a campus

524
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:19.280
where you have you have undergrad you
have assistance, you there's a student body

525
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:24.800
there. You're not shortage of there's
no shortage of options of all the people

526
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:30.519
that you decide you're going to risk
everything. The one that like, yeah,

527
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:31.920
if it was some grad student,
you know, assistant, Yeah,

528
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:35.159
he could probably bully her, pay
her off with one hundred grand and this

529
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:38.679
goes away. You pick the one
where if she goes ballistic on you,

530
00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:44.039
you're screwed because she she can take
you down, like she was brought in

531
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:46.440
just for this very purpose to bring
you down. Anyone who was going to

532
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:51.159
do this. Yeah, and and
and you know again, I always say,

533
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:52.719
like, let it all play out
and if it turns into a lover's

534
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:59.519
spat or whatever, but if it
is legitimate, like if in that situation,

535
00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:04.800
like and I don't know because I've
never done something like that. Uh,

536
00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:07.400
what were they like what were they
talking about? Like that he felt

537
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:10.360
the need to do, Like if
that was the case, Like it couldn't

538
00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:15.039
have been, like hey, let's
talk about like the next compliance like the

539
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:19.280
next seminar that we have about sexual
assault and how to, how to,

540
00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:22.360
how to, how to catch sexual
assault, know that it's happened to you

541
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:27.119
or whatever, how to report it
whatever. What is going on there where

542
00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:30.800
you feel compelled to do that?
If if not for they were, as

543
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:35.599
he said, having a mutual phone
sex thing and this turned into to whatever

544
00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:37.639
it's turned into. I do like
this. I could actually see that that

545
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:42.599
conversation getting awkward pretty fast. Is
she's trying to go through the bullet points

546
00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:45.599
of the next compliance meeting for Title
nine purposes and his responses, what are

547
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:59.000
you wearing? Assumed? What kind
law? At the end of the day,

548
00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:00.800
I'll be very curious to see how
it turns out. But as it

549
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:06.920
is, he's he's done, and
he's he's been suspended. They're gonna end

550
00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:09.719
up firing him, and uh,
it's yeah, and then that school just

551
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:15.119
cannot No school can really tolerate it. But at Michigan State with the Larry

552
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:19.800
Naster stuff, really really has to
be firm. Sorry for the punt on

553
00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:23.199
this. Yeah. And and I
love the fact that they start suspending him

554
00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:27.719
without pay because normally what they'll do
to kind of like play kate the whole

555
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:30.480
thing. It's like, hey,
we're gonna suspend you like in the media,

556
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:34.760
but we'll still keep giving you your
salary. Uh. And this one,

557
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:37.360
I think when you're like, you're
right, I think they're gonna I

558
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:39.599
think he's done because they're like,
listen, we're not giving any more money.

559
00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:45.639
Yeah, because basically saying we're gonna
keep the remainder of your contractor yeah.

560
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:47.639
And then I don't know, like
and then in my head, I'm

561
00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:52.719
like, I don't know where you
It's situations like this song, where do

562
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:54.480
you go? What do you do
after? Like like you can't it's not

563
00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:57.480
like you can go, Like you
can't go to high school and like,

564
00:40:57.519 --> 00:40:59.840
hey, man, I used to
coach at Michigan State. You can.

565
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:02.239
I mean like yeah, but you're
not allowed to have a phone, Like

566
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:07.960
you, but you were allegedly beaten
off on the phone with the compliance officers.

567
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:09.880
So we don't know how you're going
to fit in with the guidance counselors

568
00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:14.480
in high school. If this is
what he does to a compliance officer,

569
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:21.320
I can't imagine what he would do
to a parole officer. There will be

570
00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:24.760
some small school that will, you
know, go, oh wait, we

571
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:30.079
can have him. And I worked
for Art Briles leaving Baylor will but just

572
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:32.719
for a second, I mean,
Art Briles was still the pariah of I

573
00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:38.599
mean Christ. They got like the
offensive coordinator Oklahoma has been skewered this week

574
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:43.599
just for having Art Briles on the
field on Saturday at the Oklahoma game.

575
00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:46.760
Like the point is someone someone still
hired him. Oh yeah, they thought,

576
00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:49.400
oh yeah, we can get away
with this, and then you know

577
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:52.119
every place I mean I think what
the Canadian Football League, and then I

578
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:57.559
think maybe Liberty or someone like that
Liberty University. There there there are there

579
00:41:57.559 --> 00:42:00.920
are to me, there are you
know, there are many categories of cockroach

580
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:07.559
occupations. One is football coach and
another one is bad radio shows. They

581
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:12.840
always seem to find a way to
get hired despite all the evidence being to

582
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:17.280
the contrary that they'll have any modicum
of success. But it only takes one

583
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:24.320
program director or one athletic director to
say, you know what, I like

584
00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:28.639
this. I like it. I'm
gonna make this decision. I'm gonna hire

585
00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:32.079
this guy. You think Mel has
a You think Mel has a brewery.

586
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:40.000
I think everyone's got a brewery these
days. I'm shocked we don't have one.

587
00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:43.559
We should start one. I mean, we were already branching out with

588
00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:50.920
a football podcast. Why not a
treehouse brewery run by run by a current

589
00:42:50.960 --> 00:43:00.440
functional alcoholic, an Indian uh son
of immigrants from this heat, and a

590
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:05.000
bona fide alcoholic who's been sober for
seven years. If that's not If that's

591
00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:07.440
not a recipe for success for an
alcohol brand, I don't know what is.

592
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:17.039
Yeah, three unwise men muster fu
draft will be the most entertaining.

593
00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:22.719
Yeah, there's no doubt I'll put
the India in. I PA, Let's

594
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:30.000
do Ours is actually authentic because Rogers
the Indian trey is pale, and I'm

595
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:39.920
drinking the ale. Normally, this
is where I would end the show.

596
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:44.480
But there's one more thing that I
want to touch on again. Sorry for

597
00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:49.840
the pun. Here in the very
first episode of the Treehouse Football Podcast,

598
00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:55.159
when that is we started the show
with a surprise of the Cowboys putting up

599
00:43:55.199 --> 00:44:00.079
forty points and shutting out the Giants
in week one, the surprise of Aaron

600
00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:04.920
Rodgers not being able to complete his
first offensive series as a New York Jet.

601
00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:09.679
And now my question for you,
mister Trenholm, is this, Actually

602
00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:15.119
I'm sorry. Now my question for
you, Raj is this who do you

603
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:25.159
think was more surprised that Trey's Longhorn's
upset Alabama? Alabama or Tray? I'm

604
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:31.920
gonna go with Tray. Really you
so you think Alabama was less surprised getting

605
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:38.000
beat at home by eleventh ranked ut
than Trey, who was saying before the

606
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:43.679
game to me via text message,
Yeah, it doesn't look good. They're

607
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not ready for that hostile environment.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like

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when I think of when I think
of the ultimate optimist, Trenholme doesn't come

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to mind. So if you're giving
me the option of one trend home versus

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eighty eight thousand people in the stadium
in Alabama, I'm going with Trent.

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Yeah, I I I've watched I
think the quarterback I think for for ut.

612
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Uh, I'm just glad he cut
his hair. Uh. I know,

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his eyes on an old Cromle.
I'm like the bullet thing whatever.

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I don't understand that coming back.
But he looks good, man, I

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like the guy. The team looks
good. I'm not gonna lie to you.

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You know, for someone like that, that may have been one of

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the more impressive things as yours,
because he's been just burrated about his performance

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last year. And you know,
you have I forgot that there's one quarterback

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he's supposed to be great, but
then you have Arch Manning and the wings

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and so there's a huge amount of
pressure. There are a lot of people

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were like why is he even starting? And uh, And then you know,

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you go into Alabama and I mean
it was the worst home loss Nickson

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like, first time they've had a
non conference home loss in like twenty years

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and worst loss Sabans had since like
h three. And they just physically dominated

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Alabama And no, I would have
bet everything that that would not was not

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gonna happen. And you know,
and I'm not sure, I'm not sure

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who I feel worse for u Nick
Saban's soul that I'm convinced he's sold to

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the devil many years ago, or
the sack of puppies that I assume that

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he bludgeoned after the game. No
puppies were harmed in the making of this

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podcast as far as we know.
No, he wouldn't surprise me if if

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Nick Saban was the Grilla Deville of
college football. Yeah, no, no,

632
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no, he looks like he looks
like he like like the players didn't

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get to eat that night, Like
like that's what like like you couldn't win

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or you're gonna eat one of the
two talking about talking about not having a

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response from your friends. We were
talking about the Cowboys and Giants and checking

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on your Giants friends. I have
three Alabama friends, two of which I

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still have not heard from. And
I was and I wasn't even talking crap

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to him during the game. And
I one of them who I knew he

639
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was at the game, like he
is a big Alabama alumni booster, and

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I was like, are you okay? Like I didn't see that one coming.

641
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You know it's gonna be And as
a Texas fan, I can offer

642
00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:25.440
the perspective of disappointment. It's what
we know, and especially early season disappointment

643
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:28.679
and I'm like, it's okay,
you know, y'all can still come back

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00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:31.400
from this. It's it's it's early
and he was responsive. No, he

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00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:35.800
still has not responded. So that's
two of your three Alabama fans you have

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not heard from. I have not
heard from my Giant fan either. Is

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it possible that those Bama fans somehow
found their way into the puppy sack?

648
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Or didn't they No one tends to
use them. Now, Joe might have

649
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been so distraught that he put himself
in the puppy sack. Just it's sort

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of like an offering up to he's
got a sacrifice if this mean Alabama will

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win for a first first loss,
like that, he has to sacrifice a

652
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boosts. He just he just kneels
down in front of He just kneels down

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in front of Nick Saban. He
said, roll tide. Now you're being

654
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:20.719
silly. He's gotta kneel down at
Saban's altar that he does have. Like

655
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we know he's got this, like
he's got a dungeon with an altar and

656
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he just sits there and he waits
for them to sacrifice their their first booster.

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Yeah, I like it. I
again, I was I was stunned,

658
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but I was very optimistic going into
it. I was like, you

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know what this could be. There's
always that great upset. Yeah, in

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the early weeks of college football.
And I told Trey before the game,

661
00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:47.079
I said, look, I have
no dog in this fight. Like we

662
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:51.360
mentioned at the beginning of the show, I didn't go to college to cheer

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for a football team because I went
to UT arlankedon that didn't have one.

664
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I went actually for broadcasting stuff,
and so I don't have a favorite college

665
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team on any sport whatever. I
just like to watch a good game.

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What I told Trade before this game
is I'm not cheering for your Longhorns.

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I hope the best for you as
my friend, and I actually do think.

668
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I don't know if I didn't think
Texas was going to win the game,

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but my hope was that they would
because if they do, it's good

670
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for college football as a whole.
It's very sad for those puppies in office,

671
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but it's good for the rest of
college football. If Bama loses to

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Texas at home. Uh yeah,
I mean I I was, you know,

673
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I was gonna go to UT.
I was accepted, UT ended up

674
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:37.800
going to Southwest Texas State, which
is in the state, you know,

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Texas state school institutions. If you
could compare them to the Jackson five Texas

676
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states teed up. So what would
so well, then what would ut Arlington

677
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be? Would just be like cousin, No one even knows he could have

678
00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:05.679
said Jackson the never saying look,
I don't know if the two of you

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have realized this, but I'm not
exactly arguing there. It is episode number

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