They LOST His Dog… Then Made Him Sign an NDA?!

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0:45 Want more Treehouse? Check out our YouTube exclusive shows at youtube.com slash at Treehouse on Air. It is time. You'll leave your worries outside and laugh with us inside the treehouse. I'm Dan O'Malley along with Trey Trinholm. If you love what you hear here today, be sure to share it with a friend. Hit the share button. Send it to everybody you know. Share it on social media. I can tell you right now this one's going to be a doozy. We are jumping right in. It has been a long time since we have played certain games on this show, but I have a feeling one may make a comeback here. This is a very shocking story. A kennel lost my dog for 31 hours, found him behind a strip mall, then charged me $ 190 for recovery coordination plus $ 95 for extended care and won't release him to me without a no review form. The owner called finding him a premium service. So the options now are A, pay the $ 285, sign their release, take him home tonight, and warn other owners in the local group quietly. B, pay nothing further, demand the itemized justification

2:18 in writing, file a consumer complaint with the state over the no review clause, and pursue the vet bill and small claims. Or.... Could the answer be... C. Which is? Kill everyone involved and burn the motherfucker to the ground. And for those of us that are, for those of you that are new here inside the treehouse, that game is called Could the Answer Be C? C is the answer to all of those questions in Could the Answer Be C? And this one, this one, I... Whew! Look, this is one of those times where in show construction, it would be wise for me to take the other side and go, Trey, that would be an overreaction, and that would be wrong to do. However, I'm going to team up with you on this one. We're going to be like the Avengers, and we're going to assemble, and there's going to be a Ford Lee sign on a pile of ashes.

3:17 Yeah, when they hit me, first of all, when you... Not only you lose my dog, but then you find them and you are holding them hostage. This is where I would all of a sudden become whatever Liam Neeson's character was in Taken. Brian Mills. Brian Mills. And calmly explain to them that you have two choices. That is, release my dog now, or I am going to kill every one of you. in a horrendously horrible way. And I would tell them, I would go, your best option right now, if you want to continue this, is you need to call the authorities for protection. And it'll only be a hiatus while I am arrested, but I will get out and I will find you and it will just make it worse. This will be like my father when I threatened to call the police on him.

4:19 He said, go ahead. I'll post bail. I have no priors, son. I have no priors and I'm a boomer with cash. Oh, man, this one really is a doozy. I'll try to edit this as I give as I go down and give you some context, because in very subreddit style, they over explain things. I don't really feel like there's a lot needed. Well, I mean, the short version is you needed to kennel your dog because you had to go out of town. That's the short version. They say, my dad had hip surgery in another state. Six nights and our beagle needed somewhere to be.

5:05 The kennel is the one with the good reviews and the double gated play yard. $ 62 a. Night, $ 372 paid a drop off on a Monday at 715 in the morning. He is 11, a shelter dog from 2016. See, there's already three different things in there we don't actually really need to know. Anyway, Thursday at 4.50 p.m., the kennel called to say they couldn't find him. I drove the route in my head the entire evening. He turned up Friday night behind a strip mall two streets over. A woman who feeds strays in the area found him and kept him there until the kennel arrived. I picked him up on Saturday. He had a torn nail, dehydrated, And the urgent vet bill ran $ 148. For the record, that's a pretty good urgent vet bill.

5:53 It's a good urgent vet bill. And honestly, $ 62 a night is a very reasonable kindle. It's not bad. But I mean, it's probably $ 62 because they let them free range at night. Anyway, $ 148 at the emergency vet. At the counter, the folder had my name on it. The original $ 372 already paid, plus. Recovery coordination fee, $ 190, plus extended care night, $ 95 for the night he was found. Under the total, a line for a signature, a release acknowledging his safe return and agreeing not to post publicly about the experience while their insurance question is open. That was in quotations. The owner said gently, like he was doing me a favor. We could have turned this over to animal control, but we chose to keep looking. Finding him as a premium service, we don't even have to offer it. He's behind the counter door on a leash while this is being explained to me. The dog is, not the actual owner of the store. That's where the story would take a really interesting turn. What nobody can prove is how he got out.

7:05 It doesn't change that he was theirs to keep track of, but I will never know whether a latch failed or someone... Someone simply wasn't paying attention. Roommate drove me back, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. At the end of the day, they wanted extra money for locating the dog that somehow got out on their watch and more money on top of all of it. And a, you know, a cover your ass document that says, You're not going to tell everyone about our F-ups. No. Which is your leverage as the customer. Well, at a certain point, that's almost blackmail that you're holding the animal. I mean, it is at that point I call the police for their own safety. Because otherwise, my first reaction is, I have a gun in my car.

8:06 When I walk back in this room, you are going to have a choice. Choose wisely. Did you see Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade? So, yeah. I think it's wise what you're saying. Call the police. Not because of necessarily anything illegal they're doing. Although there is some debate there. But it is for their protection. And what I would tell the police... is just letting you know these people have kidnapped my dog and they want ransom. I'm now going to liberate. I mean, I'm going to rescue my dog. I suggest you get here to clean up. Bring a shovel. I'm not even sure if I would be able to see through the red.

9:05 to actually make the phone call, I think I'd probably just pull that guy over the counter and then just start the process early. No, because at the point where they tell me they've lost my dog, my reaction, I, as much as I want to think, you know, I, and I try to grow at, and I have tried to evolve and become a more calmer, rational person. If you tell me you've lost my dog, through the stream of obscenities and my screaming at you, the point is going to be made crystal clear that your life depends on you finding them alive and well.

9:53 And even then, it's not guaranteed. No, but that's your best chance. Yeah, that's your only chance. Find the dog you might live. Don't find the dog you did. Yeah. And it's not going to be a wham, bam, thank you, ma'am, real quickie either. You're going to suffer. It is really unfathomable to me to... have a service-based business, fail at the service, and then charge the customer more that is from your failures. Oh, I don't have to find this dog. You know what? Technically, you're correct.

10:42 But.... If you're offering a service-based business, it would definitely be within your business's best interest to find the thing that you are in charge of holding onto for me. Well, and then, because at a certain point, if they just were trying to charge extra money, I would be like, you know what? I'll pay it. I will take it out of your ass. I will get every cent of this out of your ass. A pound of flesh... so to speak, but it will be costly. But then to try to put in there, like basically an NDA on your F up and you're going to hold my dog hostage. No, no, no, no.

11:29 First of all, it's probably not worth the paper it's printed on legally. And, but yeah, no, that's, I can't even, I can't. There, there are, there are some things that I simply, I can't fathom the rage I would feel. And this is one of them. I mean, I actually, I can fathom it. I just, it would put me, I know myself, I would be so blindingly mad that it would be a miracle if I didn't do something really stupid.

12:11 And that that's the part where it goes from being unfathomable to a fever dream because it's like okay it's on now um because i'm with you i think i think it would actually be a very scary moment to see the switch in my brain flip when i see my dog after all the stress and worry that i've had saying they couldn't find my dog and then i'm now in the i'm in i'm in the i'm in the kennel I'm in the place and here's my dog and they've got it behind the counter on the leash. And they say, you can't have your dog until you pay X, Y, Z. I don't know how much of a delay there would be in the rage. It would not be a long fuse.

12:56 And I'm sitting here in my mind. I play it out. I'm like, is this place smart enough that it's set up like a convenience store and they're behind bulletproof glass? Because if this is just a counter separating us, I'm coming over that. Don't let these short legs fool you. I'm springy. Yeah. And no one says that I have to jump over it. All I got to do is just drag you over it. There are many, many options here at our disposal. But ultimately, don't kidnap our dog. Right. And if you're running a doggy daycare, you also...

13:38 Be prepared. Make sure your facility is set up for all types of breeds. Because I'll give you this. Beagles are sneaky little bastards. I had one. They are too smart for their own good. And they have an uncanny ability. Like if you give them a fence, they might go over it. They might go under it. They are diggers. And so these are eventualities you have to be prepared for. And if you're not, then don't take beagles. There are some dogs you just simply should not take. Yeah, that is very true. And what I would do is also, I mean, I don't know, because I've been to a few of these doggy daycare type places and many of them are very, very good. They're very nice.

14:22 And if it were me and I'm running that business, I would have cameras everywhere. So that way, if one of the animals does get out in some way, then you can at least go back and to see how it happened. Also on top of that, I would, you know, and most of the doggy daycare places I've been to do this, which is treat it sort of like recess in elementary school. There's teachers and everything out there with the kids, keeping an eye on them. Same thing. Like the place shouldn't just let the dogs completely free without any observation, because you don't know what's going to happen. Sometimes some dogs don't get along to get into a fight. Maybe you got a sneaky beagle that's cutting through the fence with some, you know, wire cutters or something. It's good to be out there keeping an eye on things.

15:05 If I ran a doggy daycare, the outside play area would look like the yard at a penitentiary. It would be at least double-fenced. Because I would be so paranoid about losing someone's pet. One side of the yard, you've got the Mexican dogs. Another side of the yard, you've got the Rottweiler black dogs. And then you got like the white poodle bitches over on the side. You got some of them are working out. Some are playing basketball. And there's one beagle standing right in the middle of the yard, shaking his pant leg and as little chunks of concrete and dirt fall out of his leg. And when you take him back to his kennel, he's got a poster up of Bridget Bardo.

15:57 He's got a poster up of Woodstock. I never would have thought about that. That's really good. Snoopy Dufresne. Now I want to see.... Charlie Brown is Morgan Freeman's character. I want to see It's a Shawshank Redemption Charlie Brown. It's like the other day we laughed about the Muppets having a comeback and having them redo some more of the current movies. I would love to see it to Shawshank Redemption, Charlie Brown. Also a Muppet version. I would also like to see the Muppet version of Shawshank Redemption. Oh, God.

16:52 My stomach hurts. Oh, God, that's good. Anyway, yes, we will kill you if you kidnap our dogs. We're not going to kill you over a check, over a tab at a restaurant or anything, but we are going to take issue with certain things. We've talked about this before, but it's always interesting how people can find new and interesting ways to screw things up. And in this case, it is a split-check situation where... Hang on, I lost it in my tab. Okay, there it is. Am I the a-hole... For paying my part instead of splitting the entire bill. Now, just that headline? I don't know. There are a few questions that need to be answered. But there's more. Am I the a-hole for paying my part instead of splitting the bill? Tonight, I went out with my girlfriend and her co-workers. Yes, you were the a-hole, and on some level, you messed up. Once you included significant other in there, that is a wrinkle that really changes things. Now, this guy says it was a very informal event with no boss, no superior. One even came with an underage sister and his boyfriend. He says she doesn't have much interaction with them other than in the workplace.

18:24 He's talking about his girlfriend. So they're little more than acquaintances. Dinner was okay. Talked mostly among ourselves. Finally came the check. They wanted to split it evenly, even though me and my girlfriend ate two pizzas and a Coke, while many took meat, wine, entrees, and desserts. Okay, this makes sense. I was like, this sounds European, like they took meat and stuff. Okay, it is. It's Europe. They said our part was a total of 37 pounds, while they asked us to pay 52 pounds. In American dollars, that's a difference of like $ 500, $ 600, I think. My money math conversion is not the best. I don't know what the current exchange rate is.

19:07 That's about probably $ 18. All right, so whatever. $ 300, $ 400, $ 500, $ 18 still. So they wanted to pay basically almost $ 20 more than what they felt they should. So the boyfriend here says, I intervened and said politely that I was going to pay for our parts today. and let them share the rest of the bill in any way they preferred. After paying, we said goodbye and went home. Then she, my girlfriend, started ranting about how she felt ashamed and that I am too strict, that because of me, her co-workers could start mistreating her. I honestly feel wronged and sad. I'm a very honest person that simply doesn't like taking advantage of others and vice versa. I've always paid like this.

19:50 and she's always supported it wholeheartedly because she too hates paying more for no reason. Also, I'm in a bad period financially and try to avoid unnecessary expenses. I spend basically nothing for myself, devote my entire budget to her and our relationship to make sure she feels loved and taken care of. I really try, guys, to be a good partner and to go past this crappy part of my life. So when, despite my devotion, I'm treated like this, I feel really sad. Am I the a-hole or should I just suck it up? Or am I not? And should I stand and tell her I don't deserve this? Most of the time, I will side with the person saying, you know, pay your fair share. But that is such a small amount in the big picture that, A, if you can't afford it, then don't go out. Right.

20:39 If you really are trying to be really strict financially, you should have gone out in the first place. But yeah, if you're with her coworkers and you're going to create a fuss over, I mean, if we're talking about $ 50, $ 100, I'm on your side, man. But $ 18, give or take, yeah, you're going to, you know, and if everyone else is like, yeah, just here, we'll split it up and then you're that person. Like I said, if I'm in that situation, if I know I'm going to do that, I pull the server aside and say, you keep my check separate. Yeah. That way, when the bill comes and they're like, oh, well, everyone just chip in, I can just go, hey, guys, you don't... I got our bill separate because I don't drink and everything else. So, yeah, y'all go ahead and split it amongst yourself. I got mine. Yeah. But you didn't do that. It's one big bill. Now you're making a fuss. You're embarrassing her. It's not worth the money. Right. That's... Ultimately...

21:40 On principle, I understand where he's coming from, but at a certain point, you have to go, it's not worth the money. You have to be able to look ahead a couple of steps in a situation like this, which is think about what happens after this evening when she has to go to work with these people, right? You have, and you've never met these people before. So not only are they judging you, they're judging her based on you. So you have two options. You can look like a cheap a-hole. And that is what they're going to remember. And they're going to ask her the next day at work, God, Trey's a real cheap ass. Or you can look like the hero. Swoop in. I'm not even saying pay for everybody, but just happily split the check with them all. And that way, you are a non-issue. There's only glowing things to say about you, hopefully. But at the very least, there's nothing bad to say. At a certain dollar amount, then we can start having a more difficult discussion. But over what amounts to basically $ 18, like you said, not worth it. And honestly, paying $ 18 to get some positive will and positive favor for your ladies' co-workers, Worth it.

23:09 Well, and also in this situation, I would be willing to bet at some point when you made this statement and all the girls' faces started scrunching up and disapproval, you had a chance to pull out and go, okay, fine, you know what, we'll split it up. But it sounds like you didn't. You tried to hold your ground. And so, yeah, then your girl looks... The fact that now your girl's pissed off It would have been worth, $ 18 is cheap to keep the peace. Right. And here's something to keep in mind. Just because you held your ground doesn't mean that when you look up, anyone will still be on your ground. They may leave and just leave you alone. Congratulations, you held your ground.

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25:57 Formula One superstar, multiple-time world champion Max Verstappen is 29. He accomplished more in his 20s than Trey and I ever will. And I'm really not that mad about it. Thumbs up, bro. Those Formula One guys are on another level. Oh, it's unbelievable. I mean, they are... For the most part. So they're 22... drivers in an F1. And for the most part, they are all absolutely, even, even the bad ones are elite. There there's, there's one, one guy named Lance Stroll, who's just a complete nepo baby and, and, uh, sucks ass. But, uh, but you know, I don't, I don't begrudge him if my dad was a billionaire and he wanted to fund me being an F1 driver. Okay.

26:48 Sure. But I'm not been, Verstappen is funny because when he first started, I mean, he was just the cocky kid. And then as his fame has grown, he is, he is, and he was very, very tight lipped, very, very, um, robotic almost. And then as he's won championships and, and he has gotten to a point where he is, I mean, I would say generally regarded as the best driver. Um, he's relaxed a lot and he, he will say some of the damnedest things. And, uh, he's just, he's funny as hell. He's very dry, but the stuff he says, you know, last year, I think it was, there was famously someone asked him, well, you know, what if so-and-so had done this or you had done this? And he goes, well, What if my mom had balls? She'd be my dad.

27:50 Something like that. It's not an exact quote, but it was something like that. It was like, okay. Where is he from? Netherlands. I forgot. Because that's the kind of thing that my papa from Bartlesville, Oklahoma would say. I don't expect redneck speak out of a Formula One driver. Belgium. I don't expect redneck speak out of a Formula One driver, although it is quite refreshing. I like knowing that those types of sayings are global. He's gotten to that point that he is so elite.

28:31 He knows he can say what others can't because they might get in trouble. Red Bull is not touching. Red Bull, in fact, just literally paid him there was talk that he might go to another team because Red Bull has not done great this year. Ever since they got rid of Christian Horner, they've kind of been falling apart. And so there was talk that Verstappen might go to another team. He just signed, I want to say, you know, it's like a $ 55 million. No, I'm sorry. I take that back. It's more than that. I think it's maybe a, close to a hundred million dollars a year deal. Oh, uh, it's the most, it's the biggest contract in F1 history.

29:18 And yeah, he will absolutely, I forgot. He, he makes like a million dollars a lap basically at least. That's disgusting. All right. I'll have to go back and look at the site. It's, it's an absolute ridiculous amount, but he's worth it. I mean, and that's why generally F1 drivers are the highest paid athletes in the world. Yeah. I mean, well you gotta look at it this way uh like you said there's only like what 22 of them yeah so you're talking about an extremely elite club they are not the same but numbers wise There are more Navy SEALs on this planet than there are Formula One drivers. There are more Delta operators that we don't officially acknowledge than there are Formula One drivers. I mean, it is a very, very, very tiny pool of people that can do what those guys do.

30:14 His contract is worth... It's $ 110 to $ 128 million a year, depending on bonuses. Really? Bonuses on that amount? So.... Yeah, he makes at least, they run 22, like $ 5 million a race. To me, when you're at that sort of a salary, the idea of a bonus is truly laughable. Like he's going to be driving a lap, but he's making, you know, six figures per on thinking, you know what? I wasn't going to go faster this lap, but I am now because I'll get an extra million dollars on top of my $ 101 million. They just, I mean, Disney just did a whole special on, I think it was Disney, it was Disney or ESPN, but one of the, that same family about him and a go, and you know, go-kart racing, which not like Malibu, but there's actual go-kart racing. That's what kids do. And they're, as they go up and racing, it was max versus 100.

31:18 It was like, how many laps would it take him to pass 100 people? To get to the front. And I think it was like 32. In a go-kart. That is pretty cool. See that's the kind of stuff. I enjoy that stuff. Even though I don't. That sounds like a stunt or a bit. That the guys from Dude Perfect. Or like Mr. Beast would do. And I should watch those. But I don't for some reason. But that type of a hook gets me in. I would like to see Max Verstappen. Go up against. you know, a hundred normal average Joes. Well, they're asking a go-kart. And these are like cart drivers. So they're, they're not complete novices. Karting is a whole series in, in racing. So, but they're going up against the best driver in the world.

32:08 And yeah, there's even, I know there's even talk that they're going to try to get max and cause dude, if you go look at some of his different things he's done, It's impressive. Especially in his younger years, Red Bull had him do in some of their racing against different cars, everything else. There's talk they're going to try to get him behind the wheel of a NASCAR for a race, which that would be fascinating. That would be a lot of fun. F1 drivers are the best drivers in the world, but it's so different. A stock car is so different, but I think even he'll... So far, there's nothing on wheels that he can't drive and win in. And by the way, that contract just to give you, that's just his contract.

33:00 That doesn't include endorsements. That's how much money the dude makes. Yeah. I am excited though, at the possibility of max for stop and hopping in a NASCAR, because then that means there is the real possibility. We get a real life ballot of Ricky Bobby, uh, Where it's Max Verstappen and a NASCAR guy on foot running towards the finish line. Hopefully they don't make out at the end. But I mean, you talk about life imitating art, that would be, oh yeah, that would be pretty sweet. Making the leap. I think that's what it is. I like seeing like when someone, like the average Joe's show back in the day where you had former NFL players going up against in shape, average Joe's doing football stuff. And Trey and I were like, there's no chance that average Joe's are going to get their ass kicked all over that field. And for the most part, they did even retired NFL players are still going to be better than the average guy. But it's like someone had said a long time ago that during the Olympics, and I love this idea during the Olympics, They should, in every event, have one regular person competing just so you can see the difference at how elite these athletes are in said event. Like in the 100-meter dash.

34:35 You know what? Let's make it more interesting. In the 110-meter hurdles, it's whoever the best 6, 8, 10 runners are in the world and me. By the time they are done and have won the race and they're all finished, I would still be tangled and hurt in the first hurdle. And while that would be entertaining, don't get me wrong. That's going to be quality television, baby. But the sad thing is, for most sports, you could take Division I college players And then put them in, you know, D1 hurdler, but wasn't good enough to go pro or qualify for the Olympics. And it would be a glaring show of the difference between what is, and I would say a D1 player is, or D1 athlete is elite. But then the difference between that level of elite and Olympic elite is a monstrous gap.

35:46 Yeah. But football, you want to talk about? Take D1, undrafted D1 guy and put them on NFL and get smoked. That's why when I think back on Jake Paul saying that he's going to play football. Bitch, bitch, please. I will say this. He has my attention. I will watch that show, but mainly because I want to see him get destroyed. And he would. Did getting his jaw broken finally end his boxing career? Because I feel like. I think it did. I don't think there's been an official announcement or any final word on it, but I think the word is the rumor now is that it pretty much has.

36:36 I mean, you can only milk that goat for so long. Eventually the goats dry up. Yeah. Other birthdays today. All we said was Max Verstappen is 29. Yeah. Uh, T-Pain is 42. Lacey Chabert is 44. Very interesting career for Lacey Chabert. Also sometimes known as Jennifer Love Hewitt, uh, two. Uh, so Lacey Chabert was Gretchen Wieners and Mean Girls. Okay. Before that, she was Claudia on Party of Five. Okay. That's, it is the same. Okay. Yeah. Uh, but she is now best known for having, I've lost count of how many Hallmark Christmas movies she's been in, but it is now Hallmark Christmas movie tradition that you get at least one new Lacey Chabert film every season. Hey, look, man, it's good. It's good. It's good to find your gig. Don't let it go.

37:37 You know, I bet that that's a solid paycheck and, uh, I imagine they pump those things out so quickly. I imagine filming on a Hallmark movie is pretty quick and painless. Yeah. Can I confess something to you, Trey? Oh, God. What do you think I'm going to say? You like Hallmark movies? Eh. My real confession is that I would love to write and make one. Because... they're very formulaic. And I think I could offer just enough of a twist on some of the storylines to make it really interesting and cross over into bringing in a newer audience to the Hallmark Christmas movies. I think I could bring just enough of an edge like Lacey Chabert can still be in the movie, of course, but then I can just bring, you know, just, a little twist of something here and there to make it just a little more interesting, but still, but still the, you know, the ladies in their Christmas PJs and, and hot cocoa and stuff can still have their Hallmark Christmas movie, but you know, just a little, just a little twinge of diehard in there. Wouldn't, wouldn't hurt anybody.

38:52 Or the love interest is black thunder. I didn't know you read my script. Back inside the Treehouse now, I'm Dan O'Malley along with Trey Trenholm. If you would like to get more Treehouse, you can when you subscribe to Treehouse Plus, Treehouse Super Plus, or Ultimate Treehouse, available on our Patreon, P-A-T-R-E-O-N, patreon.com slash treehouse on air three levels of treehouse to subscribe to where you get bonus content subscriber only episodes and video all there at treehouse plus super plus and ultimate treehouse to get more treehouse in your life today patreon.com slash treehouse on air thank you very much uh trey we need to talk about something here okay uh How does it feel to be kind of viral?

39:56 You know, it's interesting. So for those that don't know, I posted it. And I want to say I posted the video a couple of weeks ago. You did? I was doing yoga and my puppy Lily likes to help. And so I've been videoing videos. my yoga because it's kind of puppy yoga. And, um, but on this one, I happened to let one loose and I farted on her and it startled her and it was funny. And for some reason, all of a sudden it, it is, it, it's fascinating the way social media works. So that video all of a sudden in the last four or five days has taken off on Instagram. I think it's up to about like 108,000 views on it on Instagram. On TikTok, it's got like 800 views.

40:53 No one can figure out the new TikTok. Once it was out of Chinese hands and into American-ish hands, TikTok seems very, very different and no one seems to have truly cracked that nut yet. But, you know, so I have been getting, you know, all sorts of, a bunch of new followers, which is great. I appreciate it. And, uh, if you want to see the video trade trend home one, or I actually posted on the tree house account. Um, yes. And, uh, and also it seems that I don't know if it's the dog or me, but, um, I've become very popular with, with gay men. Cause I, Not only have I gotten a bunch of new followers, but I've gotten some messages. Most of them just, hey, how are you? Hello. Oh, yeah. Okay.

41:50 So let me get this straight. The timeline of events. You posted a video on Instagram of you, Trey, doing yoga. And you farted. The next thing you know, you've got a bunch of new followers and people sliding into your DMs, some of which are gay men. Yes. Yes. Why are you surprised? You're stretching on camera, on social media, showing your flexibility, and then you sent out a mating call. I don't know why. The only thing surprising here is that you're surprised.

42:31 I guess, you know. am in a nice forward lunge position when I'm doing this, but, uh, but. Yeah, it's, uh, so you have a bunch of men sliding into your puppy yoga, uh, video saying, I wish I was your dog. You know, nothing that overt, just a lot of, uh, hi, how are you? Uh, obviously it's gone international cause I, I'm getting, uh, messages in different languages. Uh, a. Couple in Spanish, uh, I think one in French and then a couple I'm not sure about.

43:13 We'll see. So for Spanish, it would be a lot of me gusta. And then in French, it might be a ou je t'aime. That's about the extent of my foreign language. So yeah, it's a. There's also a Florida man panhandle that might slide into your DM. Ha! Not the hottest sounding man, but I'm sure he's in great shape. Also, that sounds like Luke. It does. He's kind of from that Georgia, Florida panhandle area. There's a lot of crossover. The top of Florida is Southern Alabama. The bottom of Georgia is the bottom of... A Florida top or a Georgia bottom. Well, congratulations. It's great to have new followers. It's great to have new fans. And if we're being honest, gay, straight, Doesn't matter if you're getting compliments. We'll take it. Right.

44:08 No, I absolutely. And I'm going to try to crank out some more puppy yoga videos because. Oh, OK. I thought you're just going to crank out. Yeah, because that'll that'll be catching my eyeballs, too. Look, I mean, like maybe it was growing up with my mom and theater work and stuff. So I was around men of alternate lifestyles on a pretty regular basis. And so it's never bothered me. And I've always taken it as a very high compliment. If a gay man finds you attractive, that is one of the highest compliments you can ever receive. I'm with you growing up. My mother worked in cosmetics at different various Neiman Marcus's around town. And then she was in real estate, which in the eighties, if you were a realtor, you were either a, basically a woman or a gay guy. Until men realized how much money you could make, it was very much considered a lesser occupation.

45:14 And then all of a sudden, these women started making a million dollars and men were like, oh, hey. I could do that better. But I'm with you. There was a gay guy around the Park City who was a realtor, Ron. And Ron was... hilarious he was so and this is late 80s early 90s so to be out and open especially around the park cities in Dallas it was a different time you you had to you know and he was just someone he most people couldn't pull it off I mean they're they're in the closet was a far bigger thing but he told me way back then I was in high school he goes we know if you're straight He goes, he's like, if a gay guy's ever, you know, he goes, the only time a gay guy's going to hit on a straight guy is if they just want to make you uncomfortable. He goes, otherwise, he said exactly, he goes, take it as a compliment, but they're, they're not looking, you know, they know. It's like, yeah, we have gaydar.

46:21 We know. It's a real thing. It may not be an actual device, but it's a real thing. Yeah. But it really is. Go ahead. And he also, he said what turned out to be one of the greatest facts ever, which, again, and this is in 19. He told me this. I was a senior in high school. I was on my way to college, I think. This is 92-ish. And he said, if you knew the number of prominent Dallas men married pillars of community that have gay lovers. You would be shocked. And he was right.

47:07 How'd you find out that he was right? Because over the years, they came out, they left their wives and were involved. They came out of the closet. Yeah, it's like eventually they realized this closet got kind of small. Well, again, and it really, it's hard to, It's really hard to explain. I had this conversation with a Gen Z-er. And it's really hard to explain to people, if you didn't live through it, that what they consider oppression, they have no idea what some of the older, especially gay lesbians, they went through in the 80s and 90s when it was really frowned upon. And you really were living a closeted lifestyle. And a lot of times that meant you were married, had kids, whatever, and were just miserable.

48:00 Yeah. And in some of those cases, it could be physically dangerous to be out as well. Oh, yeah. That's a whole other layer of it. And you're right. Sometimes the current generations don't always understand and therefore can't fully appreciate the era that they're in. Because in order for that era to happen, struggle and strife and in some cases really bad things had to happen to get to to the current spot. Listen, there is a guy, Steve, gay guy, he's been a bartender at JR's, which is a gay bar in Dallas. And he's been, I think he's worked there since the late 70s, early 80s.

48:43 Damn. So, and you're working in a gay bar, you're gay in the 70s and 80s. I mean, that's, and he's the sweetest, nicest man ever. But you're talking about someone who has seen it all. And his perspective, you know, just talking to him and his perspective on things, it was so fascinating. And I bet he knows everyone that was in the closet at a certain period. Oh, everyone. And when he hears, watching him, you know, talk about some of the things that people are bitching about today and he's like you have no idea what we went through.

49:31 You don't know what I know you haven't seen what I've seen yeah Well, lucky for us, we can all log on to Instagram or TikTok or maybe even the Facebook and watch our very dear Trey Trinholm do puppy yoga and fart on his dog. Lucky you. Yeah, lucky us. It actually is lucky that it's only online and not actually in the room, because trust me, I've been in the room when he did it, and it's not a place you want to be. I fell for Lily in that moment.

50:12 I was going to say, Dan understands why Lily ran. Yeah, no, I do. There's a reason why we do this show remotely. We will see you next time right here. It's a two-way path. Trey's happy as well. Yeah. We will see you next time right here inside the Treehouse. Thank you.