April 6, 2026

YouTube Ep 18 | Dear Treehouse | Don't Put Zyn Pouches In These Holes

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Why can't GenZ just put Zyn pouches in their mouth and tide pods in the washer? We discuss the places they're putting them and why.

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It is time to leave your worries outside and laugh

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with us inside the treehouse. I'm Daniel Mallley along Raj

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Sharma and your host for our YouTube exclusive show, Tredy Trenholm.

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Thank you, Dan, Welcome Dan. I found something now. Actually

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this is really going to be more of a gen

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z what the fuck is wrong with them?

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But we have that amount of time, but we'll give

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it a shot.

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But in this context, you know, I also thought of you, Dan,

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all right.

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I wish I was kidding, but we need to talk

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about rectal zenning. Share this with.

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Okay, the fuck man, I really don't like this association

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that you have created. Okay, Like it's one.

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Thing, it's a thing I've heard about this.

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Well, I'm less concerned about the rectal s inning right now.

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I'm curious about it, but not for that reason. I

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don't know anything about it. What I'm what I'm concerned

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with right now is how you keep making this association

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between anal play and me, and that ain't cool. It's

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also not true. I should probably mention that you just

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started with that that just keeps on giving and I

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can't get away from it because on one hand, I

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should be thoroughly offended, you know.

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But.

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Giving.

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But if it's funny, I'm.

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Gonna back into it like you do.

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It's a constant struggle that I find myself in, which

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which is me as the person or me as an entertainer.

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Gotta grease yourself up for either.

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I wish I was kidding, but we need to talk

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about rectal zenning. Share this with somebody who you suspect

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has put one of these you nowhere, This see Dan,

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tis not the smarter, faster way to.

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Get a buzz.

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And I can't believe there's something worse than four zen

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when you take substances.

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Remember that?

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Okay, hang on that just well, no, no, no, I'm

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focusing on something else. I'm the foreskin is not or

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the fore esen is not lost on me? For but

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is the zen in the rectal zinning? Is that the

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non tobacco pouch thing? Is? Is that? What that is?

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Yes?

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Got it?

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Okay? Like you didn't know, Rack, I.

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Don't keep up with all the tobacco or non tobacco trends.

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You just didn't know what it was called.

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You just call it Tuesday, just hit play lee.

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You bypass something called first pass metabolism. That your livers

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built in filter. Without it, you absorb way more, way faster.

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It's the same reason people have ended up in the

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er from alcohol inemas. The same dose that you would

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take my mouth is going to hit you like a

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freight train. Now apply that to nicotine six milligrams in

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up your butt. That's not casual. That's a chemical gut punch. Literally,

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we're talking nausea, dizziness, heart palpitations, you might even faints.

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Plus you don't want to lose a zen up there?

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Do you put yours on a string? All right?

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Well?

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Or is it just on the beads?

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Okay? First of all, I am not into assplayed the

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way that you guys seem to think I am. Despite

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all the funny punch lines throw ot over the last

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year plus, it's the second of it.

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It's more into.

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You see what I mean? You see? Do you see

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what I have to put up with? And then another

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aspect of this is I don't do tobacco products anymore.

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And when I did, as sure as hell didn't stick

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them up my butt because they went where they were.

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I put them where they were designed to go, which

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was my mouth. If I did dip, it was going

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in my mouth. That's where it's supposed to go. When

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I smoked, I've smoked it through my mouth, that's where

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it was supposed to go. Occasionally I got drunken stuck

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one up my nose, sometimes two, but that's it. Nothing

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tobacco related. Everyone near my butt. This is a tobacco

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well non tobacco, but tobacco adjacent. Whatever this zen stuff is.

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I don't know what it is. I've seen the z

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yn and it looks like it's a tobacco pouch thing,

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but I guess it's not. And then it's a it's

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basically a nicotine pouch. Okay, it's a nicotine pouch, but

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no tobacco. Yes, So it's sort of like vaping. Like vaping,

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there's no tobacco, you're just getting nicotine and you know, strawberry,

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fruitcake whatever, smoke.

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That it is the dipping form of vaping.

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See See this actually is a great metaphor for gen Z,

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is that the stuff we did, like actually smoking and

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actually dipping, had tobacco in it. Gen Z, they've foregone

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the substance but still are doing the other part of it.

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Like they're not smoking tobacco, they're vaping juice.

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That's like, And I know I know a lot of

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women that do the zen A lot of women.

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That's odd to me. But yeah, I mean like when

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when we did this stuff, when we dipped, it had tobacco.

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When we smoked, it had tobacco, And now gen Z

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when they do these things, they don't have the tobacco.

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They're just going through the motions and I don't understand

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any of it. So, in other words, it lacks substance.

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I smoked. Get cancer like an adult, right.

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Get cancer like a goddamn Marlborough man. Should not the

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zen dude? Yeah, the zenbreo.

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That should be a zen bro, not a zen dude.

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Think about that. Just forget everything about life and generational conflict, right,

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and forget cancer and forget popcorn, lung and all these things. Okay,

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we got the Marlborough man on one hand and the

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zen bro on the other. Which would you rather be?

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I'd rather be the Marlborough man.

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I know the Marlboro men smoked so much in during

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the shoots that the horse actually died of cancer.

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Somewhere. The zen Bro's like should have done this in.

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The horse actually died of I think I don't think

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it was lung cancer, but it was some sort of

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cancer because the shoots were closed back in the day,

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like you know, doing the promos for him.

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That's a lot of cigarettes.

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To kill a horse.

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And he died of cancer as well, But I would

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think so.

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Yeah, my aunt, after my uncle passed away, when she remarried,

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she remarried the Marlboro Man and the actual yes, and

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he was a manly man. But and he did in

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fact pass away with cancer.

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Yeah, Trey, I've known you for like twenty years and

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I don't think I've ever known this about you.

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Well, it's not so not very close to My dad

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and his brother were not the closest of people, So.

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I don't give a fuck about that you were related

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to the Marlboro Man.

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It's not really well fine, but question, did your aunt

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marry the Marlborough Man before or after the horse died

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of cancer? I ask because I want to know if

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he rolled the horse into the wedding.

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I do not know, but I'm going to assume before

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because I don't believe a horse was involved in the wedding.

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I wasn't invited to the wedding, so I don't know.

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Oh, well, I'm pretty sure if the horse from the

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ads had been involved, I think you would have at

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least heard about it.

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Yeah.

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Mine worked for RJ.

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Reynolds in Atlanta, and in their breakroom, like you know

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how like they have like you know, normal breakrooms they

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have like sandwiches and you know, muffins and stuff like that,

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they had platters of cigarettes and you could smoke in

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the building.

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Oh. I have not smoked in a long time, but

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that sounds sweet just thinking back to twenty two year

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old me, going, man, that would be awesome.

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Well, the the screwy thing about this is having done both. Actually,

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I've dipped, I've smoked, I've vaped. Like vaping was harder

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to quit than smoking because the biggest thing with vaping

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is you can do it in so many other places

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that you can't smoke. Dipping, I said, if I had

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a pick of an addiction, I could have and not

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have any consequence for I would dip. That was my

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favorite thing.

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But what was your go to dip?

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In the end, it was a skull mint pouch. I

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started off Copenhagen. I actually started at the top and

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then went down.

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Yeah, like a goddamn man. Yeah, like there's Marlborough Man

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and then there's Copenhagen. Tray.

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Oh, I mean Copenhagen is an art form.

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It is because it gets your teeth. Yeah.

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Well, I mean it's just it's so fine and you

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have to know like how to pack it and everything else.

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But and not only that, like packing it. Packing it

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was something I could never do because I can never

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I didn't have that finger dexterity to pack it with

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my finger, you know, like tray still got it. It's

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like riding a bike. You can snap it to today.

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But uh, where was I going with that dexterity? Oh?

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Not only could Trey pack it like a champ, but

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he could dip while he drank and not and the

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two would not Like he wouldn't swallow the dip. The

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dip would stay where he wanted it, and the liquid

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could wash around it, through it, whatever, but that dip

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stayed where he wanted it in his mouth. Now that

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that is how you dip.

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That's a skill. Yeah. I was a skull of wooden

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green long cut.

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Yeah did that? I mean?

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Uh?

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And that was the scary. With the pouches, I could do, eat, drink, talk,

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whatever and keep it in my mouth for hours on end.

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Right, are the kids today like the jen Alphas the

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teenagers Jen Alphas teenagers right now? Gen Z is all

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in their twenties, right correct? Okay, So is jen Alpha

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doing the Zen as teenagers like we were doing DIP

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as teenagers?

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I think so.

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The reason I ask is because like the Copenhagen finger

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where you can snap the can and pack it. So

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when I dipped, I was like fifteen, sixteen years old,

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and I did it like most guys my age because

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it was the baseball thing to do. And I only

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did it for like six months, But it's an amazing

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thing to think back to the nineties or a bunch

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of fourteen fifteen sixteen year olds up and down the

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dugout snapping their fingers and trying to hide the can

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in their bag as they pack it from their parents

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in the stands. But when you weren't packing the can,

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there would just be guys sitting on the bench between

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innings and like just snapping their fingers, practicing, and the parents.

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Are just just clueless.

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As to what this thing was.

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I think, isn't that why they invented Big League two?

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Isn't that what it?

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That was?

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What that was for it.

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Was a gateway to tobacco.

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I thought it was a substitute.

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I don't know, but I.

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Started with I started with Big League two when I

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was like five. It eventually moved on to the heartstuff

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heroin but shredded.

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Yeah, I thought it was.

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I thought it was supposed to be like a little

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uh like to help you get away from And they

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even banned uh tobacco in uh major league baseball, right,

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I believe they did.

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Yeah, yeah, but the.

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Big leagu chew. Yeah, it was well. It was also

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to keep kids like they wanted to be like their

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you know, major league heroes. Again, this is back in

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the day where baseball was far more popular than it

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is now. But yeah, so yeah baseball player, especially with

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do those big hunks at chew and people, you know,

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kids could do it with bubble gum and look like

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their hero.

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It was, yes, it was. It was so you could

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mimic the guys you watch on TV.

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Oh gotcha, Okay, I thought it was the other way around.

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No, And believe me, we did it. And I still

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remember the at the ball field. You'd go to the

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snack stand, the concession stand, and you could get the

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pouch of Big League Chew, which was designed intentionally for

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children to look like adults chewing tobacco, but great flavored.

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That's the amazing thing about the eighties. It's one of

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the amazing things about growing up at gen X is

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the adults had the real version, and then we had

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the candy version as kids. We had we had big

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we had Big League Chew to look like chaw. We

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had candy cigarettes to look like actual smokes. Uh. And

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there's something else. Uh, the dip the dipping sticks kind

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of remind I never did heroin or anything, but it's

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like a scooping of something on a foil, and that necessarily,

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uh you know, correlates that's heroin.

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Damn. Yeah.

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The pixie sticks sort of like cocaine and you know,

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sweetness and a straw. There's something else that I'm that

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I'm forgetting about also, that we as kids had the

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candy version of the real stuff that adults had. I'll

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think of it.

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At some point you were you were putting pixie sticks

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up your nose.

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Hey, you're supposed to eat it, not to snort it.

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Well, no, no, I I ate it.

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I mean, I know, I know you were born in Oklahoma.

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But good god, my beginning meth kit.

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You just go with the baseball doug out and some

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guy has just poured out his uh, his his stick

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onto a spoon and he's melting it down.

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Fisher Price my first meth uh.

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My first meth lab. God, I had it in my

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head and it's killing me now. It really did. Because

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as kids we had the candy versions of all of

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the real stuff that adults had, with the Big League

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Chew for chaw and now I've even forgot the other

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stuff since happened, candy cigarettes and else there's a big

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one of them. I'm forgetting what it is.

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I remember they had the candy cigarettes that you could.

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Like puff on and then like kind of blow out

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and like powder would come out to look like smoke.

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Wow, I don't think I ever got those, Yeah, I.

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Mean did you, like, you know, some people had like

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the little Fisher Price, you know, little medical kit with

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this placed at the scope and I mean, were you

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tying your arm off and like.

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Practicing playing tourniquet. I remember the other thing. So it's

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big League chew that looked like chaw, the candy cigarettes

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that look like cigarettes, and then the ib C root

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beer that looked like a genuine beer bottle. There's three

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things right there that we had as kids that we

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looked like miniature versions of our parents. Smoking, dipping, drinking

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all right there, and you could get them all at

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the snack stand at the ball field.

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Yeah, that's why my parents never put me in activities.

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Well, they didn't do any of that stuff.

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So they saw me doing any of that, I would

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have got my ass whooked.

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That was standard fair and drinking.

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Yeah. The only thing, the only thing my baseball dug

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out I was missing. The only thing my baseball dugout

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was missing was actual kids puffing on the candy cigarettes

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in the dugout.

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They just had actual cigarettes.

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There was There's always that one kid.

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It's always the one guy.

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It's always the one guy. He's standing next to the manager.

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They're sharing smokes. He's like, here, you got a lighter.

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Here you go to me.

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His name Ms. John Cruck.

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I mean, and that's that's what I think, you know.

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I it sounds so stupid, but that you could actually

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when we were kids, I don't know, my dad would

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send me to the store with like a business card

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or a little note from him saying you know, please

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give him, you know, Carlton's and they would.

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Yeah, it was a magical time. It really was interesting

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when you think about it, because all this stuff that's

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been happening with the Stranger Things finale, you've got the

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younger generations posting on social media things like, let me

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get this straight. Back in the eighties, your parents just

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let you go on a bicycle not knowing where you

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were going for hours on end. Yes, not only that,

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but we were armed with candy versions of addictive substances.

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Well not only let us encouraged it.

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Oh yeah, man, did it demanded it when I got

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When I got to the house, it was get out

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of your school clothes and go outside. And there was

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a corner store right at the end of my street.

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And we didn't have to Like a couple of people

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in the neighborhood like their parents smoked. There was no

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note needed. They just knew who the kids were. So

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my buddy like AJ and Sonny would you know my

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parents didn't smoke, but AJ and Sonny were like, Hey,

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we're going to walk down and grab you know, a

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candy bar or whatever it was, and a drink. And

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I got to get my dad's cigarettes and there was

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no questions asked.

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It's like, hey, what's up kid, Hey.

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My dad needs a pack of you know, a marble

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red hundreds and done.

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And that's when it was.

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Like I think it was like a dollar ten for

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a pack of cigarettes something like that.

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And yeah, my.

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Dad was so lazy.

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Wait wait, wait, we have do the thing all right,

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say it again, Treydan Raju and I will do thing,

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Tray Goup.

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My dad was so lazy, lazy he sent me at

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twelve years old to drive seven mile We live seven

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miles outside of town, to drive seven miles into town

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with a note to go buy him cigarettes.

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He had you drive, well, he stayed at home?

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Is he him?

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No, it wasn't the country.

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It was like, ah, it's the country. There are no rules.

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I mean there's laws, but there's no rules.

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How did you reach the like I wasn't.

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I was a small kid, like I had a growth

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spurt when I was thirteen. But how did you reach

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the pedals? Did you stand up and drive?

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No?

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It was uh trying to think. He had me take

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a jeep. The jeep so, I mean, it wasn't if

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he pulled the seat all the way up, could reach

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the pedals.

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That's incredible.

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Wow.

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Country living is country living is a completely different world, Raja.

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I mean you grew up in Mesquite, which is country

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light because it's the suburb of Dallas and it's very hicified.

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But it ain't the country, no.

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But I also grew up with very you know, British

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men or parents you know that lived in London for

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twenty years, So there was no there was no possible way.

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I was taking a car I did.

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I never snuck out of the house. I never did

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that once in my life. When people are like, oh,

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I snuck out, I got through this and I went.

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My parents said no when I rolled the car button.

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Never did anything like that.

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I will. This isn't the but at a future date,

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if y'all remind me to tell the story about how

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my dad caught me smoking.

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Oh how old, Oh gosh.

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It's probably fourteen thirteen, fourteen, okay, huh, but it's a

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good one. But for now, so one more little psa.

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Whatever you do, don't google this, especially if you're at work.

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It's gonna sound fake, but it's real. People have sent

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me the videos. Yeah, I went viral on Snapchat. That

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was a whole other thing. I didn't have the right

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settings on. They sent me all kinds of videos.

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Don't do that.

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Make sure your settings are right. There are guys who

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have started I can't believe that I'm saying this. I've

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started putting zen pouches under their foreskin, not in their

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mouth at least.

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All well, good news, Drake. You don't have to worry

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